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Thank you.

Reply to fiatjaf…

No, it isn’t.

Reply to Laeserin…

*fixed

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I thought we had agreed to call it “outbox”!

Reply to fiatjaf…

That is so cool 👌🏽

Reply to realjode…

Coracle has a list of relays ranked by how many people you follow publish to them. nostr.watch might also be useful.

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Btw, since I think I was first (really not sure and idgaf!), can I reappropriate the original name again?

multiplexer

Reply to calle…

What I meant is that my browser doesn’t like 100 websockets I think.

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What’s your relay list?

Reply to Nunya Bidness…

I’m down to listen in. Let’s do it.

Reply to Derek Ross…

Heavy is the head that wears the crown

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That’s a great question, I don’t know. Maybe it can’t be answered, because it’s dependent on a whole bunch of social factors, like how likely relay runners are to censor users, or what a given user’s risk profile for censorship looks like.

In theory, 2 relays for the entire network is enough. But that introduces scaling issues and the possibility for them to cooperate in banning someone. My best guess is that at the network’s current size, 5-10 hubs is probably enough, plus relays that support special use cases, like authenticated communities and archival relays. Nerds will run their own relays, which is fine, but it doesn’t really benefit anyone as long as censorship or relay failure is only occasional. I guess what’s most important is that 1. there are backups of important data, and 2. it’s easy to create a new relay when one is needed.

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very few people should be running relays. We have probably 10x more relays than we need right now

How does one calculate the optimal number of relays?

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Self-hosting certainly doesn’t hurt

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No, very few people should be running relays. We have probably 10x more relays than we need right now. The point is that if one relay goes down or bans you, you have at least one other relay that can continue to serve all your stuff. This doesn’t require self-hosting.

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It depends on what you mean by “size”. There’s WoT size, which is where more people you follow post to a given relay:

There are also relay monitoring systems like nostr.watch that are working on a system for reporting how many active users are on a relay, along with other metrics.

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Yeah, blastr wrote my German-language notes someplace in deepest Siberia, or something.

Reply to Laeserin…

No, but why? Do you want to pay 100 relays to hold your notes? Broadcast is digital squatting, made possible only by taking advantage of hobbyist relay operators.

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I would like to be able to publish to > 100 relays. Can this ever be possible without using a blastr?

Reply to calle…

Scroll down to “other relays”

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Coracle lists relays and shows how many people you follow are on each. It also drops the top few to encourage network decentralization.

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DO IT

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REQUEST UNCLEAR.

MAYBE WE SHOULD RIP A DISPATCH TO DISCUSS THIS.

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Reply to Laeserin…

Yay, we’re follow frens again. ☺️

Reply to Laeserin…

If it weren’t for band, I’d be completely invisible.

Reply to Laeserin…

Did you unfollow me?

Reply to Laeserin…

this is good. thanks for doing the analysis which lead to this.

Reply to DanConwayDev…

Thx, just did 🙏🏼

Reply to Paul Sernine…

Anyone I follow can add theforest.nostr1.com as a relay. Best relay content. Hosted by @npub1...ztl5h .

Reply to Laeserin…

MfW I realize that nobody can see this.

Reply to Laeserin…

Even wine is completely dwarfed by stuff like nos.lol

Reply to Laeserin…

Wine is my biggest relay.

You can see the volume/relay here:
https://stats.nostr.band/#relay_users

Reply to Laeserin…

mid

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i’ll do it

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It’s true, but also in nostr your reach is unavoidable. Clients will faithfully propagate the notez 🎵🎶 and somehow nostr.band uses telepathy to find some relay it never should have had a reason to see 😂

Reply to cloud fodder…

Also the people who should be reading this note won’t see it, so what was the point?

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