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Video: Women DESPISE Men, and They Blame YOU For It – Giving Men A Voice
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Published: April 18, 2026
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Transcript — YouTube panel (human-authored)

0:00 Yeah, this was sent over to me by by a buddy of mine over at the I Came with Fire podcast. And this is Steven Crowder talking about this uh this new research and uh some of the what should be obvious implications, but apparently uh people are especially in the in the more feminist wing are struggling to digest this information. So, we’ll see we’ll see what they have to say about it.

0:24 Let’s see. Let’s start with what Steven says. Relationships. So she also asked those surveyed if they had a positive opinion of the opposite sex. And before I get into these numbers, I don’t do we have that chart of the men rate grading women on a scale from 1 to 10. Right? This is and I want to add a new one for you. When you talk about if keep this up first question, do you think that marriages families are important for a functioning society? Do you think that a good marriage is important? We should be encouraging that. Okay. If you want to fix the broken uh male female dynamics, you cannot do it by directing your eye at men. It can’t be done. Look at that chart. They had many I don’t know remember if it was thousands, hundreds, I think it was thousands of men rate women on a scale from 1 to 10. Women rate men on a scale from 1 to 10 at random. The men rating women perfect bell curve. The women rating men, it’s a reverse hockey stick. 82% maybe 83 were rated as below average which is statistically impossible.

1:22 That means that only one side only one of the two sexes has unrealistic expectations. That brings us to these other numbers that this lady included in her survey. Well, first of all, let’s not rush past that too fast. Uh only one side has unrealistic expectations. Finally, somebody’s saying it in mainstream media. This has been something that I’ve been running into all over the place. This idea, especially among conservative Christians, that well, actually, no, it’s kind of just the men’s fault because their standards for women are too high. The assumption is that um the assumption is that because guys are, you know, they’re they’re watching anime girls and they’re uh you know, and they’re seeing girls in bikinis on their Instagram all the time. That stuff is uh skyrocketing men’s expectations for women. And so they just they can’t uh they can’t be attracted to a normal woman anymore. Except when you actually measure attractiveness, men today still

2:27 rate most women on an actual bell curve, something that looks normal and human. When you look at the way that women rate men, that’s where you see the weirdness. That’s where it’s like, okay, that’s not normal. Something is broken there. When you see all of the the the uh the results piled up at the bottom, you do not have a sort of standard distribution. something is broken. Uh, and most people are not willing to acknowledge that. They’re not comfortable acknowledging that no, this isn’t a guy issue. This is primarily an issue with the girls. It’s well, and the other thing that you’ll hear is people will say, “Well, actually, the girls are right to rate the guys that low because the the guys really are just that worthless.

3:21 I guess they’re just they just really don’t bring enough to the table. Look at them. They’re all incelss covered in Cheeto dust and neck beards and they smell bad and they’re overweight and you know they just they haven’t done anything with their lives and so they don’t bring anything to the table. And we’ll get into why that take doesn’t really work in a second where we we’ll see what uh what uh Steven’s producer looks like, a guy who’s experiencing some very similar stuff. Um, but yeah, when you start seeing guys who are at the top of the heap experiencing this this stuff, they’re they’re the ones getting rejected, which is what the data shows. Literally no guy, like less than 1% of men are rated as actual top 10s. Uh, and oh, we got a super chat in here. Women are part of a protected sacred pagan cast system that perpetuates the sin of partiality. Man, I’ve been saying that uh for as loud as I can for the last year. Uh and and it’s

4:24 something that is so normal and so protected today that we see it on in the middle of uh even the most conservative churches today. Um, but yeah, uh, yeah. So, yeah, let’s let’s keep going with what Steven has to say about this, but we’re going to continue to see this, uh, this imbalance get worse, and we’ll, again, we’ll look at at the way that they explain it away uh, some more later on.

4:53 We had to do some extra digging. If you look at a positive opinion of the opposite sex, okay, men under the age of 30, 72% of men have a positive view of women. Women under the age of 30, only 50%. Women under the age of 25, 35%. And think about that for a second. Think about that. Women under the age of 25, only 35% have a positive view of men. means if you want to get married, if you want to start a family, you really better be thinking about that before 25. Doesn’t mean that your chances are gone.

5:30 But of course, these are your most fertile years. And the overwhelming majority of women and that age demog are going, “No, absolutely not.” Whereas there are plenty of young men there going, “Yeah, yeah, I’m willing to start this up.” Here’s the other thing that’s quite telling. If you dig into the research more, women start off, young women, with unfavorable views of men and the favorability goes up as they get older. With men, you see the exact opposite.

5:55 What does that tell you? Let’s make an inference. Yeah. So, uh, he’s he’s about to expose something that I I before we get into, uh, uh, his idea about this, I want to look really quick at, uh, some of the ways that he was, uh, that, uh, that people are coping with this. Oh, by the way, I think uh, there’s a guy who uh, your message got deleted. I don’t know if it I don’t know how that got deleted, but I saw it very briefly. Uh oh. Yeah, it’s I I’m assuming this is sarcasm.

6:31 Yes, I Yes, I’m a total misogynist and I hate women. Uh that is uh yes, as we can see from the data, so many of us as men just absolutely despise women. Um # sarcasm for those who are not quick enough to get it. Um but yeah, no, that’s just not the case. Most guys are just sort of like, yeah, women are fine, actually. And again, to to make this clear for those who haven’t heard me say this yet, my primary frustration isn’t with women at all. As far as I can tell, women are uh women are acting they’re just acting uh they’re they’re they’re reset to to default settings right now. They’re just acting the way that everybody tells them that they should. They have nobody reigning them in. Nobody telling them how they should behave. Nobody setting any standard of behavior, let alone holding them to it. Um, so it’s kind of hard for me to get upset with with women for their behavior at the moment. No, the people that I get upset with the

7:33 most if I’m upset with anybody, it is men. Like I have a much more negative view of men today than I than I did 5 years ago. It’s just the particular men who I view unfavorably are the men who should have been holding women accountable and stopped. Right? It’s the guys who should have been uh doing something about the the fathers, the church elders and church leaders, the pastors, the Christian influencers, uh the the conservative talk show hosts who should have been setting the expectations for women’s behavior and holding women to it and saying something at least saying something about it when women don’t meet those standards. Uh that’s that just hasn’t been happening.

8:22 So if you’re a young woman growing up today, how on earth are you supposed to know how you’re supposed to behave? No one’s telling you the truth about it. No one’s telling you like, hey, actually, you know what? Men aren’t the worst. And hey, actually, maybe you do need to care about something other than yourself. Nobody’s actually telling them that. So what how are they supposed to know what to do if nobody’s telling them is? And so if if we want to be upset with anybody and be uh you know misogynist, misandress or anything, the specific group of people to to point the frustration at are the people who allowed this to happen. And if you rewind even farther back in history, it’s the people who pushed this to happen, right? It wasn’t just feminist women on their own who put this stuff into place. this was done primarily by men of influence, right? And we hear this this talking point um more and more these days that look like Andrew Wilson

9:26 talks about this. If women want a particular law or rule in place, they do not have the ability to force it into place. They need men to do that for them. So if any of this stuff is happening, it’s because men not only went along with it, they made it happen. They pushed it. So if you if we really want to be against anybody, it should be the people who stop doing their job to actually take care of these women’s souls and elevate them as human beings and and hold them to the highest standards that they possibly could and and help these women develop into genuine adult humans, right? Instead, we’re just letting them be just grass-fed, freerange animals and encouraging them in that and expecting that this that we’re going to have this this incredible result from that. No, of course not. Um, so before we uh go uh we look more at what Stephen had to say, I want to look at how some of the people on the left uh are coping with this.

10:37 So, uh, let me see. I don’t know if you guys can see this. Let me know if you can can see this. Well, I may need to zoom in. Uh, let’s see here. Um, so, okay. So, this is a Reddit post about this particular uh the uh the article and the researcher that Stephen is um commenting on here. And these are this stuck out to me when I saw this. So So let’s see here. I have to say the discussion here about this article/in is deeply disappointing. I’m trying my I’m trying to read it in my best Redditor voice. It’s clear most of you are reacting to implications you think the authors are making and they’re just not.

11:29 Here’s a list. Here’s a list of things the authors do not say nor strongly imply. One, young men are right or good or exonerated from political responsibility because they haven’t moved as far right as some believe. So, okay, let let’s let’s just unpack that right there. So the uh uh the subtext for those who didn’t catch it is that no, we’re going to continue to assume that men are not right. They are in fact still wrong about their assessments of this. Uh men are also not uh good and they are not exonerated from uh uh their responsibilities. Uh that that seems to be the assumption that we’re we’re pushing though. Okay, fine. Maybe this person didn’t say that directly. So maybe I’m, you know, guilty of making an inference as we all do from, you know, information that happens to point a particular direction, but whatever. Uh, number two, young women are wrong or misguided or the problem for their leftward political shift, even when

12:40 described as radicalization. See, you don’t like it very much, do you? When you’re called the radical. Yeah. Yeah. you don’t like that. That’s not so fun. It’s it’s it’s really fun when you get to use those words about uh about men when you get to um cast that incantation out there and use use words like, “Oh, they’re being radicalized. They’re racist. They’re they’re sexist. They’re misogynist without any evidence to support that.” And clearly the evidence does not. You get to cast those things out there and use those words to emotionally manipulate people. You like that. But when people use those same words on you and they’re right because the data shows they’re right. Ah, now now uh now now we recognize that you’re using verbal uh verbal ninja manipulation. Now we see what’s going on. No, you knew the whole time what was going on.

13:38 Uh, and number three, we should equate slashcompare young women’s negative attitudes towards men and male violence towards women. Uh, I’m not sure what uh I’m not sure who’s doing this. We should equate slashcompare young uh women’s negative attitude towards men and male violence towards women. Um, so the assumption here again, if I’m reading into this correctly, which is kind of all I can do, uh, because they’re not really super stating what their position on this is, although I mean you can get it get from the tone, uh, what they mean by this, but it seems like they’re leaning on the I mean, assumed truth that uh, this is all about abuse and male violence and and and men are uh women are just victims in waiting and men are just monsters. Whe men are they are monsters whether they have committed monstrous acts yet or not.

14:46 It’s it’s just a matter of time and perspective and you know and so the even though the data says that those types of things that this person is describing are actually incredibly rare and uh I’ll actually I want to I want to pull up a video uh later on as well that shows that the uh domestic violence that this person is referencing is another thing that does not lean in their favor favor quite the way they think it does. Um, it actually is quite the opposite.

15:21 Um, so yeah, the the general prevailing mindset out there is that well, you know, women’s negative attitude towards men is correct. And that’s kind of what you’re seeing in this response is hold up, hold up, hold up. No, it doesn’t. What what the data is saying here isn’t that women are out of touch with reality or that they hate men or that they’re uh they’re they have this this negative uh uh bias against men or or that they’re heaven forbid abusive towards men. No.

15:55 No. The reality is that women are right. See these young women all this all this data that says uh young women dislike men. No. See, yes, you’re correct that they do, but they’re right to because men really are that bad. Look at how many men do horrible things to women, even though it’s actually a really small percentage. Uh, see, Michael’s saying, “It’s not father’s fault women have a negative view uh impression of men. 33% of girls are raised without biological fathers.

16:33 only 17 uh% have primary custody. Uh yeah, in that scenario, you’re correct. Um yeah, if it’s a if it’s a divorce scenario, which is becoming incredibly common, uh it’s I mean, yeah, the the divorce stats are not great even after people have children. Um, and yeah, I the only thing that I would say about that though is that there are still a lot of fathers out there and there are still a lot of fathers in these girls’ lives and I am around them. I watch like at at my church and at churches I’ve been to and in in groups I’ve been to I’ve watched this play out uh and in my family I’ve watched this play out where the dads of women want to be their daughter’s friends. They don’t want and and they desperately want their daughter’s approval. Um they don’t want to say anything that will upset or offend their daughter um because they’re they’re scared of the how their daughter’s going to react. They’re scared that their daughter might not like them very much or or something might go wrong like

17:47 that. Um, so yeah, I I I get it. Yes, there is a large number of women who are displaying fatherless behaviors because they are fatherless. Uh, that’s a very real thing. But there are also a large number of, you know, milktoast doormat Christian dads out there who are so desperate for any woman’s approval, uh, especially the their daughters that they’ll just let their daughter do whatever they want. They inst they, uh, enforce no boundaries and they hold their daughter to no standards of behavior. They assume in all conflicts that whoever came against their whoever their daughter is in conflict with is the one who’s at fault. So when when I say uh it’s fathers who are who also bear a responsibility in this I I can’t say that as a blanket statement to all fathers and not all fathers were able to be there. Uh and not and in those cases that’s I’m I’m not referring to that.

18:52 And also not all fathers are bad fathers. I’ve seen a lot of good fathers, too. But I’ve also seen a large number of dads, girl dads, who heavily coddle their daughters and contribute to this problem. Um, that subreddit is crazy. Was looking through it and it feels like another gay sciop. Yeah. Yeah, that’s what most of Reddit feels like to me at this point. I don’t go on Reddit very often. This just happened to be uh something that that that was the first Google search result when I tried to find this research. By the way, uh Google not very helpful in trying to find this stuff. Like when you search for things like new research on uh women disliking men, this did this the article did not pop up. The uh the uh graphic that Steven shows in his video did not show up. it’s buried like the this was the only thing related to it in in my search results. So, Google not doing us any favors here. Um, but

20:03 the point is the way that they’re coping with this is they believe that it’s actually correct. It’s like, yeah, sure. It’s the no no, it’s it’s men who dislike uh women. Men are misogynists and that makes them misogynist, right? because they’re getting radicalized by the red pill and the manosphere and all of that. Um, and then the information comes out and shows, no, that’s not true. It’s actually women that dislike men. Well, instead of that being radicalization and uh, Missandry, which would by their logic be exactly what it is. No, no, no, no, no, no. It’s actually correct. It’s actually it is the men. The men aren’t good enough. Um, now let’s let’s keep going. And I got I want you guys to see for those of you who who don’t know um who don’t know Steven Crowder’s podcast, I want you guys to see uh what he uh Steven’s uh producer, this guy looks like. And tell me if you guys think he’s the uh uh Cheeto dustcovered, smelly, unwiped bum

21:10 crack, overweight neck beard that everyone seems to assume most men are, right? these these men that are, you know, women are viewing unfavorably. Like you you tell me if this is a man who quote deserves to be treated unfavorably once he starts describing his experience. But let’s keep going for a bit. Which perspective, which statistic would be more reflected from facts, real life experience, and data? A more learned demographic? Would it be the young woman who thinks she has it all figured out, 18 years old, or would it be the man who’s maybe been around the block a few times and now he’s 50 years old? Women go, “Hate men overall, negative.” As they get older and their chances, you know what? Maybe men aren’t so bad. Men go, we love women. Then it goes, you know what? I’ve been around them enough and uh I’m starting to change my view. Here’s another number for you.

22:04 Well, and also we got to remember the incentives there. When uh when men are young, they’re filled with all kinds of like they’re all hormones. We uh deprive them of any approval in their lives and they’re they’ve been around women their whole this is something that Dr. Robert Glover talks about all the time. Uh we boys today are raised almost entirely by women. Women are the approval givers for most of their life. And so they yeah of yeah they’re generally going to view women a bit more favorably. And they’re because they’re going to be seeking favor from those women. So, they have an incentive there to view women positively. And they also have a bunch of romantic instincts and and hero instincts and they want to be the the the guy that rescues the damsel in distress and they they want to ride off into the sunset with with the beautiful princess. And uh so yeah, when guys are young and naive and they’ve got all those emotions that they feel and hormones that they feel uh towards women, they have this huge incentive to

23:09 view women with rosecolored glasses. Um there’s just layers of reasons why guys would see women that way. Girls don’t have that. They have a whole bunch of nothing in terms of their feelings for most men. Um, and then on top of that, there’s uh there’s all this messaging that they receive. Again, they’re not around guys most of like actual men most of their lives for the same reasons. Uh the dads are either as you know, as we saw, not at home at all or they’re uh, you know, they’re they’re not involved or they’re just s so busy at work that they can’t uh they can’t participate in their daughter’s life very much. Um, so for all the same reasons, girls don’t have as much interaction with men, but they’re al so they don’t know what real men are like, but they’re also hearing all these narratives about, “Hey girl, you need to get yours. You need to, you know, usurp the patriarchy. Hey, men are

24:08 always trying to take from you. Hey, men are men are the ones who do all of the bad stuff in life.“ And we see this even in our churches today. Uh, and like when I when I talk about how pastors will generally speak about men’s sins, they’re perfectly comfortable calling the guys out for all the stuff that they get wrong. But they talk up the girls and the ladies and tell them how amazing and incredible and they are and and they tell the guys, “Hey, you know, guys, the women are basically the example here.

24:38 You need to be following Jesus like them. They’re the ones that are really on fire for the Lord and they’re the ones that really worship for real.“ this it gives the women this it it it reinforces this idea the women have that they are the good ones. They are the good sex, they’re the loving sex, they’re the nice sex. Um and it makes them it like it adds to it. It reinforces this idea that women have that men do bad things because they hear it all the time from the pulpit and in their groups and that they are not they are not bad. they don’t do bad things because they never hear about any of it and they’re told all of the good stuff that they do and all of the good qualities that they bring to the table.

25:19 So, we reinforce it and make it worse. And so, women have all these incentives to view men negatively. Men have all these incentives to view uh to view women positively when they’re young, but the incentives flip as they get older. You’ll notice it’s a lot of the all all of the uh you know the the uh left-wing article writers, the uh 30some Guardian article or or BuzzFeed article writer. Yeah. They’re all, you know, they’re all older, lonely women who are just they’re feeling it and they’re starting to realize, you know what, I didn’t have all of those terrible expense experiences with men that I thought I was going to necessarily. Or probably more accurately, what’s happening is for most of their lives, they judged all men based on uh their interactions with uh just a tiny handful of men that were actually real men to them. Like going back to um uh let’s see if we can find it. He pulls up. Yeah. Uh yeah, this stat. So going back to this, these guys down here uh are invisible. they’re just

26:30 not real to uh they’re not real. And so when women are interacting with men, they’re typically interacting with the guys that are sort of just like up at the top here. And these guys, because they get all the attention from women, they have no incentive and no reason to treat women well, so they don’t. So that oftenimes formulates women’s perception of men until they get older. And this starts to even out a bit. they start to interact with real men, like actual normal real human men more and realize, you know what, maybe not all of them are quite as bad as I thought. Maybe some of these guys that I stuck in the friend zone, maybe these were the real men all along and and their view of men changes al because their incentives are changing. They can’t get attention from these guys up at the top anymore, but they’re starting to feel that push of just like, man, this career is turning out to be really annoying and really stupid, and I don’t really want to do this anymore. Uh, I would very much like

27:29 for, you know, to to uh follow my biological imperative and have kids. I would very much like to um I would very much like to to settle down and have a man take care of me. That sounds real nice. Um, so yeah, there the incentives change. It’s like, hey, men are bad, while it’s cool and fun to say that, but once you actually start to get older and your job is stressing you out and you don’t want to do it anymore, well, starts to be maybe a little bit of incentive to change. So maybe they do. Um, super chat here. Michael saying, Dr.

28:03 Baskerville say Dr. Steven Baskerville says about 99% of all divorces are initiated by the mother when small children are involved. It’s a myth. father’s abandoned children. Um, I’ll believe that. Uh, I have yet to Well, actually, there’s there’s only one instance I can think of where a man uh went through a divorce where he actually was the one who left and abandoned his kids. Um, there was a girl I dated at my old church, uh, the pastor’s daughter.

28:39 Dumb idea. don’t recommend pastor’s daughters. Um, but she ended up later on marrying a guy who was, you know, kind of he was directionless, not really a he wasn’t really a solid guy. Um, married him, they had two kids. One day he just walked into the kitchen, said, “You know what? I’m done being married to you.” And just disappeared. So, it’s it does happen. That is, I guess, the the 1% of the time where that does happen. and they were they were small young childrens but so it does happen but I will agree that it cannot be the majority of the time most of the stories that I hear are guys who are they they desperately want to be with their kids but their wife or ex-wife won’t let them like that that is and again we see this in this the the uh there’s another stat out there which has gone viral that um for young men today having children is a much higher priority than it is for young women. Young women don’t rate children as that big of a deal. So, um

29:48 yeah, guys care about kids today, their own kids, more than the women do. So, yeah, I’ll uh yeah, that uh that that does seem to be true. Let me see if I can catch up to where I was. Uh let’s see. Where was he? We’ll start back. Exact opposite. What does that tell you? Let’s make an inference. Yeah. Which perspective, which statistic would be more reflected from facts, real life experience, and data, a more learned demographic? Would it be the young woman who thinks she has it all figured out, 18 years old, or would it be the man who’s maybe been around the block a few times and now he’s 50 years old? Women go, “Hate men overall, negative.” As they get older and their chances, you know what? Maybe men aren’t so bad. Men go, “We love women.” Then it goes, “You know what? I’ve been around them enough and uh I’m starting to change my view.

30:40 Here’s another number for you. So this uh we had to go somewhere else. This is from Yuggov. 13 to 17 year old boys as far as positive views on women overall. So 13 to 17 year old 81% positive. Gen Z men 66%. Millennial men 59%. Gen X men 57. Boomer men 62 because of kind of a boomerang effect. But take those Oh, let’s not go too fast past that. Um, so the boomer thing, I don’t I don’t think he really talks about that much here, but who was it that instilled the vast majority of the white knighting and romanticism that we have in our culture today? Who is it that really enforces the uh the feminist imperative? It’s Boomer men, right? And even even like Boomercons, the the the uh you know, right-wing uh Fox Newsaholics, like it uh it’s it’s it’s yeah, the these are men who have been captured by that white knight instinct. They are so desperate for approval from women uh that they’ll do anything. They’ll sacrifice anything.

31:47 They’ll give up anything for it. Um they’ll give up their peace. They’ll give up their time. they’ll give up that their whole self just to get a morsel of approval from women. And yeah, so of course those people tend to view women a little bit more positively. Also, maybe, hey, maybe women weren’t uh, you know, quite as difficult or frustrating for guys back then. Maybe they were a little bit less feminist. Let’s give them some credit, too. Um, but yeah, most of the time when you talk to the older guys, they have this view of women that’s just angelic. like they can do no wrong. Who was it, do we think, that taught today’s women that they can do no wrong and that they’re perfect and that they’re spotless just the way they are? Sure.

32:31 Yeah, other women have told them that, but it’s not like the the uh it’s not like the older generation of men came along and corrected them. You know, often times they’re in the the uh the cheering the cheering section cheering them on, too, because they see that it gets women to approve of them. That’s another thing that I watch. That’s another dynamic that I watch happen all the time uh in churches. I’ve been watching that since I was a kid. Like the older guys especially some it it seems to do something for them when they are hyper complimentary of women. They give them all this unearned praise and shower them with all kinds of uh compliments and and talk them up. It that seems to like that seems to really do something for them. So yeah, it makes sense. Again, incentives like it makes sense that those guys would view women quite a bit more highly.

33:22 Again, combine that with the other stat, 72% of men under 30 that if you look at the metadata, yeah, that seems to be pretty consistent. Young women negative views gets more positive as they get older. Like, you cannot fix this. Taking those two graphs, you cannot fix this by browbeating men. Young women have insanely unrealistic expectations of men. Meaning, they rate men. You see that chart? Bring it back up. They rate them as below average and about 60% of them on a good day even have a favorable view. 0% gave a perfect 10. Zero. Z%.

33:58 By the way, the other number that we don’t have there, but is when women were then asked to rate themselves and men were asked to rate themselves. If a woman was rated by men like a three or a four, they rated themselves a 10. If a man was rated like a six, he rated himself a six. Well, and that’s a big part of it. That’s why women rate men so low is because they rate themselves so high. That’s why their standards are so high.

34:18 It’s not just that they view men low. It’s that they view themselves much higher than they actually are because everybody’s gassing them up and telling them, “Hey, no, you really are that perfect 10.” It that’s a that’s like a religious right in our culture. It that’s like a if you say to a woman, “No, you’re actually not a 10.” That’s like you’ve just committed a blasphemous uh error. Like that is a you you are theologically incorrect if you say that women aren’t perfect. If you well in any specific way, especially if you point out any flaws. So yeah, of course women are going to rate guys lower. They’re aiming up from a much higher place than they actually should because they don’t rate themselves accurately because they don’t view themselves according to reality. like they’re not close to reality uh in the way that they see themselves.

35:13 We have destroyed a gener we’ve destroyed a generation of young women. They have unrealistic expectations. Yeah. Uh pride a big hard issue for many. Yes. Very true. Um and that’s something that I like I I tried calling that out in the last uh in the last main video is this isn’t stuff this isn’t a red pill issue. This isn’t a manosphere issue. This isn’t necessarily um even just a left-wing issue. This is a heart issue. This is a I my soul is twisted and darkened with selfishness and sin issue and no one is doing anything about it. Um this is Yeah.

35:56 Yeah. This is it’s it’s tough to watch people like say no no no no no like like again yeah like like I talked about in that last video. It’s tough to watch as everybody scramles to try to figure out, hey, no, what’s going on here? And how do we get around this and, you know, you have all these different, you know, the blue pill, the the the Christ pill and and and everybody saying, well, basically, there is no problem. Just go back. It’s it’s just a a a practice issue. It’s that we got away from our traditions and our old ways of doing things. Just go back to the way we used to do it. Everything about this will go away. Um, and then you have the red pill saying, “No, that’s not true.” Cuz it isn’t true. that’s not an accurate depiction of it. Uh, and they say, “Hey, here’s how women actually behave and they’re correct about that.” But the fact that they’re correct about how women behave, doesn’t automatically make those behaviors the right behaviors.

36:51 It’s like so you can like if if women are deep in pride like they view themselves so much higher than reality that is not inherently a just fine normal good thing that is a deep like heart of sin like if you’re Christian how can you pretend that these women are being genuine uh born again Christf following believers when they see themselves so much more uh so much higher than what reality says about them. They see themselves as these these things that are so much they’re so much farther beyond anything that exists in reality.

37:40 How can like that is pure pride. Pride is you viewing yourself more highly than you should. Pride is you demanding that other people treat you as though you’re the most important thing in the world. It’s pride is you taking the place of God, saying, “No, I am the one that deserves worship. I’m the one that deserves all praise in all situations. For you to criticize me, that’s blasphemy because a god is or goddess in this case is perfect, right? A divine being is perfect. So if you criticize me, obviously that’s blasphemy and you’ve you’ve done a an evil by telling me that I have a fault. Like that is that is a heart that has put itself on the throne of God. That is pride. And like so this idea that this behavior is just like yeah, that’s just the way women behave. let’s just accept it and try to work around it or let’s just pretend like if we just go back to being traditional and we get rid of all the lefties this will solve it. It’s like no

38:46 no the the fact that those lefties exist the fact that any of this exists is a symptom of a far deeper hard problem. Let’s see. Uh let’s see what are we talking about in the Discord. I got off topic. Don’t Don’t go past Asmin’s video. Okay. Uh Z sent me a video from Asmin reacting to the stay-at-home boyfriend epidemic. We’ll we’ll we’ll see if we we can uh pull that one up later. That looks uh that uh the frogs are boiling. Yeah.

39:33 Yeah, that’s what it is. like this is not something that happened overnight. This has been happening for the last 200 plus years, just one little bit at a time. And and now we’re we’ve reached the generation of critical mass. We’ve reached the generation where we’ve gone beyond the the point of no return where men just this we put the last straw on the camel’s back and it is now broken.

39:59 And this is just Yeah. This is this is untenable. and he’s he’s saying, you know, he’s calling it out. Finally, we have somebody in the mainstream media who’s saying the he’s just saying, “Hey, this is what’s true. This is how it is. It’s not on the guys. The guys are behaving in a normal fashion.” No, they’re not perfect. Of course not. We don’t claim to be perfect. No guy does.

40:23 Not that I know of. Uh not in any of the circles I run in. We know we’re flawed. We know we’re average and normal. That’s kind of the point is because we know that we kind of suck sometimes. We need to work on ourselves. We actually do. That’s why Well, let’s let’s let’s listen to the rest of what he has to say about this cuz he Yeah, he puts he puts kind of the point on this. They have unrealistic views. They have factually inaccurate views of men and as they get older, they realize they were lied to, but now they they’ve lost it.

40:55 Their window is closed. Young men are That’s going to make people upset. Oh, their windows closed. You hear so many TRCcons saying, “Well, guys just need to step up and just date older women. Just do it.” You know, it’s like, well, okay, what if her being prideful and rejecting all the guys around her for, you know, her entire 20s while she pined away for for Chadler and Jimothy? Like, what if this is just a natural consequence? And what if it’s a healthy thing for her to experience a natural consequence of her behavior for the first time in her life?

41:35 Maybe ready, willing, and able in comparison to women. Women are refusing. As they get older, men are going, you know what? I have some boundaries now, but that’s narcissistic abuse and control. So, that’s where we are. Can I just add one thing cuz I’m in it real quick and I just want your opinion on this cuz Okay, this guy I’m introspective when I I’m not saying I’m Brad Pitt. Okay, first of all, look at this guy.

41:56 Yeah, he’s gonna be really humble about uh the way that he looks. But come on, people. Tell me, what do we think? Is this guy someone who deserves to be seen as a loser? Is this guy someone that you think deserves to be seen as a as kind of a nobody or viewed negatively by women? Do we think so? Maybe. Skip Baymore. Yes. Uh, I’m I’m talking about just like, hey, he do you think that Do you think this is somebody that uh women should just automatically rate as he’s not attractive enough or he’s not good enough for me and I should view him in unfavorably?

42:39 I don’t think so. Maybe he’s maybe he’s kind of a dbag. I don’t know him. Uh maybe he’s a great guy. Um I haven’t heard anything from I I didn’t hear anything from him that that would make me go, “Wow, he’s a he’s a despicable human being.” like he’s an immoral uh potential potentially uh violent or dangerous person. I didn’t see anything that made me go, “Yeah, he’s going to he’s going to be the most selfish person in on the planet like if he gets into a relationship and he’s definitely not a bad-looking dude yet.” Let’s hear what he has to say or something. But I’m fine. I do.

43:11 No, you are good-looking enough to the point that it’s concerning. I thought there was something wrong with you. I I I like the ladies. I know. But I was like, “What?” Cuz cuz you want a meaningful relationship. You’re not a CAD. And I’m like, “What is going on? Does he have some weird like left turning? Go ahead. I’ll I’ll date and most of these like I won’t even speak poorly of these girls.

43:28 I did very articulate women, nice, raised in good families, great but then it’s always never a priority. And I’m like, okay, maybe it’s something I did. Maybe I can improve. But then I see them date other guys that are just as successful, more successful. His jawline is glorious. Agreed. Uh yeah, I don’t have I don’t have that jaw. Um I that’s why I have to cover it up with a beard. Um and it’s still pretty patchy. But yeah, I I’m not seeing anything with this guy that makes me go, “Oh, he’s a terrible person that women shouldn’t like.” Like he’s he’s actually very complimentary about women. He’s clearly one of those guys who generally like is part of the statistic generally views women favorably.

44:14 Seems to. I mean, yeah. doesn’t seem like there’s any I’m not seeing any like red flags that he’s a terrible person here. Could be wrong. Maybe we’ll see the the the TMZ expose on him, but yeah, I haven’t seen anything like that yet. Well, 3, four years later, they’ve left all those guys too and not formed a meaningful relationship. And I’m still looking at them being like, there was four or five guys that I know that are great dudes that were ready to commit, ready to give themselves to and you couldn’t find the time to make that a priority, and you’re still where you are. And so yes, I think men need to be introspective, but at the same time, there’s something going on with women that is just not fixable from a man’s perspective.

44:52 Those young women, here’s the thing. You look at the mental health outcomes, right? And we’ve covered that, too. Young women are told they quite literally they are perfect just the way they are. Young women have not been asked to check their privilege for being women. Young women have not been told that they have any type of original sin or inclinations that uh they need to correct. Young men have been told to check their privilege. They’ve been told that they are toxic. They’ve been told that they are violent. They have been told that they have been destroying societies forever and so we should allow women to have a chance. Yeah. Everything is your fault, right?

45:20 Yeah. It’s it’s this idea that well, yeah, because every society that’s existed before was dominated by men and they all turned out so badly, so maybe if we just give women a chance this time it’ll work out. It’s like, well, actually, no. If you look back through history, uh look at uh there’s some times during the Roman Empire. There’s some of the uh uh there’s the Hellenistic period. There’s uh part I think part of the during a section of the Egyptian Empire. There were some fairly female dominated cultures out there. there were uh some, you know, you had some uh Cleopatra and and uh and uh and female rulers and those didn’t really turn out quite the way that they had hoped. So, it’s not as if and also, you know, historically speaking, female rulers have engaged in wars more often than than male rulers have. So, it’s not it’s not as if it’s like this slam dunk.

46:20 Oh, yeah. Well, first of all, it’s not even 100% true that it’s always been men in charge. That’s not true. Uh, you know, that’s about as true as uh what’s her name from the Hunger Games saying that she was the first a female action star. It’s like, okay, we’re forgetting about Ripley from Alien and and uh you know, Demi Moore and uh what was that? The GI Jane and like, okay, fine. Uh so like there’s movie after movie that that came before you for the last what like 30 40 years and you just totally forgot about that. Yeah. This is exactly this it’s that exact same thing. But anyways going back to like what this guy the the his co-host was saying. He’s like yeah like he he he can’t find any woman that wants to make a family a priority. He can’t find a woman that’s like, “Yeah, I think that you’re a person that’s worth settling down with. They’re just not interested in him.” And if guys like, and this is one of the things that like I I I hear guys, you know, in the

47:24 comments saying all the time, it’s like, “If those guys don’t have a shot, how do I have a shot?” Right? I don’t have the glorious jawline that he does. What am I supposed to do? And honestly, I don’t have any other answer except for deal with the heart issue, right? And and that’s kind of what Stephen is saying here is like look, you cannot pin this all on the men. What are they going to do? Try like try how is how are how are guys going to try harder?

47:54 Like how is that uh how’s that going to how’s that going to fix anything? You’re just you’re you’re pulling. You have two levers. You have the guy’s lever and the girl’s lever. You’re only pulling on the guy’s lever and it’s you’re like, “Huh, why isn’t this fixing the whole thing?” Like, “This is only fixing like some of it. Just like a little bit.” Maybe maybe I know what it is. I’m not pulling hard enough. Just keep cranking on that lever and just Oh, whoops. I broke it. Like that’s where we you you are here. Like you’re at that moment, right? Like as the lever is being broken and guys are saying, “No, we’re tired of being yanked on. we can’t fix this. Look, if this really is a heart issue on the side of the ladies, because they’ve been told they have no original sin, like he pointed out, because they’ve been told that they’re perfect just the way that they are, and that they’ve been told that they never do anything wrong, and they’ve been constantly told that men do all kinds of things wrong all day, every

48:50 day. If they believe that about themselves, how is how how can you fix this problem? Right? But if guys are actually working on themselves, but the ladies aren’t, what what good is telling the guys to step up and try harder going to do? It’s like, no, you actually have to like this message, what he’s saying right now needs to get out there to a far wider audience um than it is right now because this is more than just a huh well, I guess that’s a little weird that this is going on. Like this is a catastrophic problem for our society. Like if men and women aren’t getting together, uh you don’t have families forming. If you don’t have families forming, you don’t have people invested in their society. You don’t have people who have a reason to to look forward to the future. You don’t have people who have something to care about tomorrow.

49:46 So, and those people, the the ones that are completely untethered from any legacy or the future, are never going to care about building something now. They’re only going to care about like, hey, how can I get just the uh how can I get the most peaceful day today that I possibly can? How can I get the most pleasure that I can today? How can I survive today the best? That’s that’s really what it’s come down to at this point. That’s how that’s how boiled the frog is at this point. Guys are just like, man, how can I make it suck the least? It’s like I don’t have a future.

50:29 I I like I most young men today view uh value having kids like it’s one of their top priorities. It’s far higher priority than it is for young women. But if guys are looking at going, “How am I supposed to do that?” If uh if most young women are either come like meh about me or they actively dislike me um then how am I supposed to have kids? How am I supposed to start a family? Oh shoot. Um uh I didn’t find it. Uh I didn’t have it pulled up for this. Maybe I can maybe I can track it down.

51:05 I saw an article uh in Associated Press, which is kind of a sketchy source, and they said some interesting things about this. they they actually that that was the first place that I saw this information, but they actually tied this to another bit of data um from Pew Research, who I do generally trust that says that about uh under the I think it’s under the age of 29 um women say women report that they view divorce as immoral only 20% of the time.

51:43 Only one in five women view under the age of 29. I think it I think it’s 29. Uh only only we’ll just say young adult women. Young women. Uh let me see if I can find it. Again, like I can I can try to look it up, but Google is not super helpful with this. I need a I need a better better search engine for this. What was it? Um said Associated Press. Yeah, Associated Press. Um, shoot was it’s it’s their article on this issue like uh young w like young men uh young women dislike young men. Um, and they they uh they referenced some pew research that said that uh I mean it’s not great for young men either. I think it’s four out of 10 uh young men view divorce as immoral. But yeah, again, only two that that’s twice as many men as women. And if you’re going to go into a marriage, it’s idiotic in my opinion to go into a marriage with someone like especially when there are heavy consequences for divorce, especially for you as a man. like there there’s consequence as far as losing your kids

52:58 and you know not being able to have that investment and that thing that you like that future that legacy that you care about and the the financial burden that you get stuck with. It’s idiocy to marry someone who doesn’t think that divorce is wrong. If you go into a marriage with somebody who thinks yeah it’s just it’s just a thing that happens. It’s not inherently right or wrong. It’s just you know it’s a tool and sometimes you need to use it.

53:24 sometimes you need to get out and you know maybe sometimes just the relationship just you just weren’t compatible and all of that. It’s not inherently wrong. If you get into a marriage with a person like that, how on earth can you trust that that person will leave you the moment they stop feeling the warm fuzzies for you? You can’t like there’s there’s zero chance you can trust that person. It’s stupid to get married to them. So if only 20% of young women believe that divorce is morally wrong and you can’t trust anyone else, how are what like who are the guys supposed to marry?

54:05 Who is like is there a how many women out there are actually wise for them to marry? Like not enough to go around for all the guys. And by the way, this will blow your mind again, and like Stephen’s going to reference it in this video, but uh a little over 60% of men under 29 are are uh are not in a romantic relationship, and about half of them aren’t looking. Somewhere between 30 and 30 33ish% of men are not looking for a relationship. But that means that there are roughly 30 to 30 something% of men who are looking for a relationship in that age range. But only 20% of women in that age range are trustworthy.

54:55 Well, and I I can’t even go that far is that they, you know, just because they believe that it’s immoral doesn’t necessarily mean they won’t do it. It just means they’re, you know, they’re not complete going to it. It just means that you’re not nearly guaranteed that they will if things go sideways. Uh it’s just kind of the best you can do. Um how there are fewer women out there who view divorce as immoral than there are uh men who are in that age range who are looking for women to marry. Well, actually, I don’t even know that it’s necessarily to marry, but just that’s just any romantic engagement at all. But yeah, guys, it’s Yeah, I I think actually it it does work out that guys do want marriage more often again because they want kids more often. Um they they tend to care more about legacy. They tend to care more about companionship. They tend to care more about young men especially tend to want a long-term stable relationship. That’s

55:54 part of why young guys are so frustrated right now because so few of them are actually able to find it and get it. And so how is any of this supposed to work if nobody’s telling women that they’re wrong about this? Like how is this in what universe can we have like all all the tradons are saying just get married anyway. Don’t look at the stats on divorce. Don’t look at how bad it is. Don’t look at how tough it is.

56:23 That’s all just leftist propaganda or or whatever they say about it. or that’s that’s just manif manosphere propaganda trying to scare you. Um, okay, fine. Uh, how are how are people how are these guys supposed to get married if they genuinely can’t trust these women uh are going to stay with them when things get tough, right? If they don’t even believe that leaving after you get married is immoral, I I don’t know how you’re supposed to to I don’t know how you’re supposed to do any of that. Uh, I don’t The only way that I can see is for people like this who have the reach that Stephen does to call it out, say something about it. I’m trying my best.

57:04 Not there’s there’s there’s a a good chunk of you listening right now, but it’s nowhere near enough right now to affect change in a positive direction. Um, it needs to be guys like Stephen grabbing onto this and making waves about it and talk like guys like this need to be talking to the rest of the people that influence the conservative sphere and especially the conservative Christian sphere. I am uh I I 100% believe that if there’s going to be any change on this, it’s going to come from uh the Christian space because um or I mean I guess you could say just the religious space in general because I it it will probably be healthiest if it comes from the Christian space. Almost certainly be healthiest. But the reason for that is you need some type of moral center to to base your morality on.

58:03 If you don’t have a moral center, you can’t figure out what right and wrong is. That that just goes off of vibes in the moment, and that’s going to shift and change constantly. Um, and that’s just not going to work. If people want to buckle down and actually fix the problems, you need a moral, you need a solid, stable moral center. And we don’t have anything uh we have not been able to invent anything better than uh what has already existed and that is recognizing our creator.

58:40 You we can try all we want to to build a thing ourselves as humans that is above us, right? Because that’s what morality is, right? morality is a a a uh uh or ethics, however you want to describe it. That that’s that’s what they would say back when I was uh in psychology school. They’d be like, “No, it’s about ethics because your morality is shift shifts and it changes from person to person, but ethics is above your individual uh moral system of morality.” It’s like, well, okay, how did you create that system of ethics?

59:14 How did you create something that’s above humans? You kind of can’t um yeah it you don’t have you you can’t take humans and create something that is above human even if you get a collective mass of humans together. We’ve tried that before. Uh transport yourself back to uh 1937 Germany there was a large number of people in consensus about what the morality was. Consensus among humans doesn’t automatically make something good. No. If you want to fix this, you need a healthy moral center. And that can only come from outside of humanity.

59:56 So, hey, maybe you don’t agree. Maybe you don’t think God is real. Um, oh, come on. Christians just Christians are just as much feminists as LA and June. That won’t happen. Well, I don’t I don’t disagree with that. The vast majority of Christians today are uh captured by feminism. And the reason why I’m saying this to be extra clear is that we need like you’re going to need to retake those religious institutions from the feminists. The problem isn’t the Christianity part of it. You need that for the moral center. You need that to have a a morality and to set a standard of behavior that you can hold women to. you if it’s just vibes-based and what I want based, it’s going to be horri horrifically unhealthy.

1:00:49 Um, and it’s not going to work if you want. And it’s it’ll be fractured. It’ll be hyperindividualistic. It’ll you’ll have tons of conflict between people. We’re seeing that right now. like we okay we successfully got rid of uh our our genuine Christian moral order just eradicated that from our country as a whole and went super individualistic with it and everybody can now just kind of go off their vibes and believe whatever they want is right. How’s that working out for us as a culture? Not great. No, you need something that unifies people morally.

1:01:28 So my my firm belief Christianity offers the healthiest thing. It it offers the healthiest moral center. Yes. The people who are currently administering Christianity to the people by and large completely captured with feminism. That doesn’t make the that doesn’t make God himself wrong. Like if you don’t believe God exists and then of course yes you’re just going to view this as a purely human issue and go ah those humans aren’t doing it right.

1:01:56 And so, well, obviously the whole answer is wrong. But if God is real, which I firmly believe is he is um then what he says is what matters. What I say kind of doesn’t. And that’s why it has this unifying effect. We unify ourselves under God. The trouble is we have a lot of people who’ve been captured by uh who’ve had their who’ve well you you know how social media companies have hacked our instincts to uh with with short form autoplay scroll and videos.

1:02:31 Uh they they’ve hacked our dopamine centers to get us to yeah just hand over our attention just bow down to the machine constantly. A very similar hack was done by feminists far uh far before that. They the reason why so many of you like we mentioned earlier so many of the you know the boomers and their elders before that who uh the reason why they installed feminism as the default for our culture is because they got hacked.

1:03:07 Their instincts got hacked. their base level drives got hacked. Um their the their drive to first of all be the hero, right? If you go back to Genesis, uh the very first mistake that human beings make is to reject God. Right? We I mean we all we all know most of us know the story. Um Eve is Adam and Eve are in the garden. Eve sees the apple. You know, snake says, “Hey, come come come bite the apple. Uh, it’ll it’ll make you like God.”

1:03:46 Eve does it. Adam was apparently standing right there and saw it and sort of just let it happen. And the moment that Eve bit into that apple, she went from being vibrant and full of life and connected to God and and peaceful and happy and content to dead. Eternally, permanently, completely dead. Adam failed to protect the woman in the worst possible way that you could imagine. Every human male that has been born since then has had that failure written onto our hearts. That’s the real heart issue here. It’s not it isn’t just about instincts and drives. Like yes, we do have a biological drive to protect women because they are, you know, re more reproductively valuable than men. And yeah, that I’m sure yes, you can you can draw that out of what we’re seeing. But as human beings, created by God, we spat in God’s face and rejected him. But as we did that, specifically as men, our first failure wasn’t just a rejection of God. It was a failure to protect women from death.

1:05:00 Now, we want to undo that. We want to protect women from danger. We want to reverse. We want to make up for Adam’s original failure. We want to fix his mistake. And so we look for that. That’s why all of us from the time that we’re boys, we have that dream of riding it on the horse and and rescuing the damsel in distress. Maybe it’s not like the night themed uh vision, but we all have those like uh you know daydreams about like the dangerous situation happens and we’re the one who rescues the beautiful girl, our crush, who whoever it is.

1:05:35 That’s why it’s because that’s an echo of the our our first failure as men. And when Stephen mentions that that women don’t they’re not told that they have an original sin. This is this this is the story that he’s referencing men are like men as men we know this. We we’re we are aware constantly of our first failure but we don’t make women aware of their first failure. And so going back to the hack, we’re uh we as men constantly want to rescue women from something. It doesn’t really matter what the thing is as long as we feel satisfied that we rescued women from something dangerous. There’s not a whole lot of things that are actually dangerous today. Uh because well, I mean, we’ve we’ve made the world far safer than it has ever been throughout human history.

1:06:33 Um, and yet so but we I mean that drive, that desire to fix the problem hasn’t gone anywhere. We still want something to plug that instinct into. So what do we do? We look for anything that appears to threaten a woman. Does it threaten her reputation? Might make her look bad to the group. Oh, I’ll protect her from that. Does it make her upset? Does it make her feel bad? Oh, I’ll swoop in and ride to the rescue. Right? Even if it’s a person making a legitimate criticism and saying, “Hey, your behavior wasn’t great there. Oh, that made her feel bad.

1:07:12 I can be the hero and swoop in and rescue this this girl and satisfy that desire to uh to fix my original sin, my first failure. Not mine specifically, but ours as men. And what feminists did is they hacked that. They said, “Okay, this gives us leverage. We can take this uh this failure. Men, the man failed to protect the woman and they know it. Let’s hack that. Oh, look at us poor women.” See, power is what gives a person dignity. Power is what gives a person value. power is necessary for people to flourish and thrive and to have a good life. And you men have had that your whole lives and we haven’t. Look at what you need to rescue us from.

1:08:13 Oh, we’ve been so uh uh downtrodden and we’ve been, you know, bered by men and told how horrible we are by men and we’ve had all these unfair standards and expect expectations placed on us by men. you need to rescue us from that. And a generation after generation of men as the the the frog was boiling in the water, generation after generation of men gave into that hack and let it happen. They didn’t Well, they didn’t just let it happen. They actively participated in that.

1:08:53 I think I found the I think I found the oracle. Oh, let’s see here. Uh there’s one from the Independent. No, I think it was from AP. Yeah, the top one. Oh, that’s the one about the men’s religious revival, though. There there was a different the closest one I could find. Okay. Yeah, there was definitely one that was there was one that was about this specifically. Did I save it?

1:09:30 I might have saved it. I don’t know. I might have saved it here. Let me look cuz I asked Grog. Oh, I was like, find the article on AP that says that men disapprove of divorce more than women. And that was what came up. Yeah. And then it and then it got to the Pew Research part. Yeah. It just seems like the search engines are really dodging this issue. Like search engines really don’t want uh they really don’t want you to find this.

1:10:01 Let me see. Um whatever. I think you I don’t think we need to pull that up. I think you guys get the idea. Um, let’s keep watching CBS. What do you think happens when that woman, that young woman finds out it’s not true, she’s not perfect, and she has a lot of work to do. It’s not a surprise to men. In other words, men realizing that they need to work on themselves at 15 is just as acceptable to them as 55. They’ve always known it.

1:10:34 Imagine if you were the most attractive man who’s ever, we had one guy who came in here from South Africa, and even the guys were like, “That’s the best looking man who’s ever lived. It’s ridiculous.” He’s like, “An anime cartoon come to life.” All the women here were swooning. And I asked him, I said, “What’s that like?” He’s like, “Uh, it’s kind of hard sometimes, to tell you the truth.” But imagine if you were the best looking guy who walks in and you’re, you know, a millionaire, and women are throwing themselves at you. Okay? Uh, you’d have a different view of relationship dynamics. That’s all women below the age of 25, average and up. They have their pick. And so, they think that it’s going to be that way forever. And they’re being told that they are perfect. And so, they are rating men on this crazy unrealistic scale. Nothing is good enough. And men’s value tends to increase as they get older, right? The things that make them attractive to women. They’re more successful. They’re established. They’re more mature.

1:11:23 A man being 40 is not nearly as much of a deal breakaker for a 25-year-old woman as it is for a woman being 40 and a 30-year-old guy. That’s just reality. And then they have to face it or deny it. And instead of facing it, feminists have decided to perpetuate the lie to justify their own awful lives and decisions. And you were talking about how your it’s sunk cost fallacy. How are they supposed to change their minds now? They built their whole not just life, they built their whole identity. Everything about who they are is wrapped up in this ideology. You think they’re just going to let that go cuz some data says that they’re wrong? Of course not. They can’t. Um it can’t come from them. It has to come from some kind of consequences.

1:12:06 Fine paying for meals and stuff, but but a thank you would be nice. Yeah. because I want to hold those traditional I do hold the traditional values and I think it’s I don’t want a girl to offer to pay. I think it’s a great thing to hold those you know stereotypes for lack of a better phrase to keep them. It’s a good thing but it would also be nice to just hear you know I really appreciate you doing that.

1:12:24 Thank you. Because if at the end of the day we enter into a marriage well I would have spent all of this money tried to court her which is fine but she’s also making a bunch of money because that’s the way the world works now. just a little bit of acknowledgement or appreciation would go so far. But yeah, that’s not like Yeah, that Well, yeah, this guy, you can tell he’s still fairly bluepilled himself, probably because he is a decent looking dude who gets attention at least from women. Uh, man, I was talking to a friend of mine at church. He’s now married and, you know, I I former roommate and this guy, man, he He what did he say? He said, “Man, I used to think that all of that red pill stuff was kind of hogwash.” Like, you know, you were talking about it back when we were living together and all that. And I used to think, “Ah, whatever. That’s just a that’s nothing.

1:13:15 I don’t really, you know, I don’t think much of it.“ Um, you know, he used to be like, “What? Come on, guys. just just take a shower, you know, maybe shave, get a haircut, put on a dress shirt, look good, uh, smell good, talk good, get on hinge, accept a few likes, and go out with some girls. That’s that was his thought on the whole thing. It’s just like guys just aren’t trying. The natural assumption of most established married Christian men that that’s kind of how they view this situation. And then what he said was, “Man, a buddy of I think a few of his friends started to tell him stories about what they were going through and how different it was from his experience dating and how these guys just know they don’t get matches on Hinge. No, they they try to go talk to the girls at the church and those girls don’t want to talk to them. and he started to realize, you know what, I actually the reason why it didn’t look like the red pill was

1:14:16 right was because I was in that top 5% that they talk about and I didn’t realize it. You know, a fish doesn’t uh a fish isn’t aware of the water that he’s swimming in, right? That’s just that’s just normal. That’s just breathing to him. And so what he said was, and this is the weirdest phrase that I’ve ever heard come out of his mouth because he is a, you know, Bible thumping America, literally American flag wrapped at times, uh, conservative Christian. He was like, “Man, I realized I kind of have some privilege here and I kind of needed to check my privilege a little bit.” Like he he had a bit of that, you know, probably like this guy too, he had some pretty privilege, easy attention. Now, I will say as someone who’s like when I clean up, I’m like maybe a seven or eight. Uh what I found when I was dating was I could get interest from girls uh because I was decent looking.

1:15:15 Um but for those saying, “Oh, you’ve got pretty privilege and you’re a Chad and all of that.” It doesn’t help anywhere near as much as you think it does. Uh yeah, it will get girls to look at you and to consider you an option for about five minutes. Um, the rest of this stuff that I brought to the table was not up to par and I had a very highly negative view of myself, exceptionally self-loathing. Um, turns out a lot of that and which I thought, by the way, was humble. And I thought that was a desirable trait because humility is supposed to be desirable because that’s what, you know, you’re told as a Christian, hey, humility, that’s what the Bible says, be humble.

1:15:52 And and you know, and and uh I thought that that meant thinking low of yourself. And so I did. And I thought that girls would say see my my humility and go, “Oh, that’s a good Christian man right there because I was told that’s what Christian women wanted is good Christian men.” And turns out no. Uh it did not make them feel the things that they wanted to feel. It made them feel the opposite. And so yeah, the looks didn’t really help for more than two weeks to two months. That was about as long as any relationship would last or or even just courtship type conversations would last. Um, so yeah, having looks helps a little bit, but having everything else going together for yourself matters quite a bit more.

1:16:36 Um, so that’s that’s why I kind of can’t go super full doomer on this is for one, it’s like, yes, this guy does have a glorious jawline. I don’t. Um, but I do know how to present myself where well, and 90% of pretty is presentation. Take a cue at like take a page out of the girls book. Like the vast majority of the way they look is presentation. It’s not like what they naturally bring to the table. If you’re saying, “Oh, well, I can’t get any women at all.” that like 20% of women that do believe that uh that divorce is immoral that you probably could trust. Um I if you’re thinking to yourself, “Well, I can’t even get them because I’m not good.”

1:17:23 Okay, you can clean yourself up and if you get the rest of that stuff going, you at least have a a shot, a chance. It’s not a great one. I’m not going to promise anything. I’m not going to say, “Oh, well, yeah, just go for it.” And I’m not even going to necessarily say that you should. Uh it’s definitely something you want to you want to make sure that you are uh you’re having constant conversations with God about it about whether it’s wise or not. Um and about whether or not it’s it’s something that he will uh you know whether or not there’s value there to it. But yeah, I I I don’t want to I don’t want to give the impression that I’m like full black pill never like never women like that’s that’s not uh that’s not what I’m about.

1:18:06 But at the same time, man, I also can’t tell guys, hey, just go for it either. Like I I I feel caught in this weird in between space because I’ve, you know, had some stuff work for me. I know some guys that I know a lot of guys for whom, you know, things have worked really well for, but a lot of those guys are more on the upper end of like having their stuff together and they’re decent looking or at least they present themselves really well and off that.

1:18:36 So, but all that to say like once guys do get into that Christian club, uh, the married humble maxing. Yeah, that’s exactly what it was. I was like, uh, yeah, I was basically like taking a chisel to my soul, you know, and and or like a hammer or whatever it is that looks max and guys do. Like I was taking that I was like beating myself up internally constantly thinking that that was going to make me more attractive to women. It did not. Um, yeah, humble maxing does not it does not work. Don’t try it. Uh, no, just be honest. Just be honest. That that is pro be honest and be confident. That is far and away the most attractive thing you can do. Um second to that, have a mission. Have a a thing that you’re about. Like, hey, this is the way that I want to try to change the world for good. I want to try to make a dent in the world for good. This is how I’d like to do it. man, the number of times there uh that I you know back when I was

1:19:43 dating that I would have a conversation with a girl and she’s whatever and then I would talk about some of the like actual like mission that I had in my life and like a a switch flipped. Guys, do not underestimate the the power of having something going on in your life that matters. Um, yeah. My pickup line now is, “Did I mention I come with health care?” Well, uh, yeah. Yeah. Uh, it probably wouldn’t work in Canada because they already have their healthcare. Um, that’s another part of the problem, too. I I don’t know if anybody else has noticed this, but ever since this state has done more and more and more to take care of women, it’s like women don’t feel as much desire or urgency with like actually having men take care of them because they have such a massive safety net under them. So, and I don’t even know that it’s right to characterize it as a safety net. Um, it’s just we’ve swapped out safety nets in a way, I guess you could say, or we’ve swapped out like supply sources.

1:20:54 We’ve taken we’ve taken all of the supply away from men. Men can’t succeed e economically anymore. We’ve bloated the government with bureaucracy and aid programs and fraud. Um, and now women have to look to the state for most of their provision cuz most of the guys they just the the economy is so squished that a lot of them just kind of can’t. Um, and so yeah, if you’re a woman today, most men, well, yeah, if you want to get married and have kids, you’re going to have to be prepared to live kind of a lesser lifestyle than what you grew up with. You’re just going to have to get used to that. Um, maybe we could get women used to that if we got the messaging out there, if we were honest and talking about that openly.

1:21:44 We’re not. Um, and that might be, uh, that might be part of the problem. But, uh, humility means thinking of yourself as you are, which is why God demands worship. That’s also humility. Um, yeah. Uh, yeah. Thanks for that. Um, yeah, it that that’s true. Um, hum humility is just accuracy to reality. It’s just another form of honesty, being honest about who you are and what you what you are capable of and what you’re not. Um, and worship is putting God in his right place and saying, “Hey, these you’re saying these are all the things that you know, this is me with all the the gifts, all the talents and all the shortcomings and limitations that I have and this is God and he is infinite and perfect and so far above me that I have to acknowledge that.” That’s ultimately what worship true like actual genuine worship is is it’s it’s just being open and honest and uh and showing gratitude that God would

1:22:57 actually care about you enough to uh fill you with life and that that death we talked about earlier right when at the fall Eve ate that apple and Adam is like oh well shoot I should have stopped that from happening but I didn’t so I guess I’ll go with her. um now all of us are separated from God and dead. Yeah, God didn’t have to rescue us from that soul death. But he did. And so worship is just acknowledging the truth that yeah, God is above us in every possible way. And because of that, he did not have to rescue us from what we did. Yet he did anyway. Just being honest about that.

1:23:49 Dolot TV92. Uh, Matt, if you did a panel with me and women on your channel, I think you would have a dope discussion with both sides seeing the conversation. Um, I’m gonna have to look I’m have to I I’m have to look you up. Um, he’s at the server. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Let’s see. Let’s see. El Woodador. El Woodador. Uh, do you just get the feeling that most women just aren’t Christian at all? Not saying all the problems go away, but if Christ is first in their life life, the fruit should solve a lot. Uh yes, I absolutely do believe that well, this is going to make a lot of my Christian friends uncomfortable, but I believe that there are a lot of fake Christian women out there who believe that they genuinely are following Jesus.

1:25:05 And on a vibes level, maybe they are. On an intellectual level, maybe they are to a degree, but on a practice level, they’re not. They’re not their their behavior and their lives are not consistently being changed by God. Um, that just isn’t happening right now. Um, and there’s uh there’s this this phrase that a pastor at my church u likes to use. Uh, the faith that’s saving you is a faith that will change you. If your faith isn’t changing you, then it’s probably not saving you. And so, it’s entirely possible a lot of these girls that say that they’re Christian uh are indeed not. They’re they’re um yeah, they’re they’re not acting it out. They’re not living it. If you’re not living it, then it’s not real. Like, you can have all of the intellectual belief that you want.

1:26:02 Faith is belief. Faith is belief that you act on. Um Chuck, I think it was Chuck Smith that had a really good illustration of this. If I walk into a a room, actually, well, no, I think he borrowed this probably from like Alfred Hitchcock or something. Um, let’s see. Uh but if uh if I walk into a room and I say, “Hey, there’s a bomb under your seat and I uh then proceed and it’s going to go off in 30 seconds and I then proceed to sit down next to you, kick my feet up, just be lazy.” Okay. Do I believe that a bomb is going off in 30 seconds? No, I don’t. I might intellectually believe that to be true, but functionally I don’t. I do not have faith that there is a bomb there and nobody else is going to either because you’re not acting like it. But if I come in and I’m waving my hands, hey, there’s a bomb that’s going to go off in 30 minutes or 30 seconds and I’m like trying to get people out of there as fast as I possibly can, that is a belief that I’m acting on. I actually am doing what I say I believe.

1:27:19 So if we look at women’s behavior and they are behaving as though they are the most important thing in the world, they’re behaving as though they never do anything wrong and that all the problems in the world are someone else’s fault, men’s fault in particular, uh then it’s probably true that a lot of those women are not genuinely believers. They’re probably not genuinely uh being changed by the Holy Spirit. they’re not truly being sanctified. Which means no, you can’t expect any any of this stuff to get fixed. You can’t expect any of this stuff to change. And yes, I do believe that if we actually could get these women to genuine repentance that it wouldn’t fix everything. People are still fallen, broken, sinful, limited uh humans.

1:28:09 We all are. We won’t need to stop working on ourselves. We won’t need to stop working on everything, but it would fix a ton. Um, let’s see. Rail guy, uh, what’s your story on how you turn it around for yourself? Well, first of all, step one was again like stop humble maxing. That was the first step was I had to recognize that um it was it was not beating myself up about how bad I sucked and and how terrible I was at everything was not serving me. That was not helping me. Like being really like cuz I used to have a fairly in a way doomer mindset about everything. I thought, man, I suck so bad.

1:29:01 Like, like I didn’t externalize it, I guess, is the only difference between me and most doomers. I I internalized it and I beat the snot out of myself for everything that was wrong in my life. And I was like, man, I suck. I’m incapable. I can’t get anything right. And if I can’t get anything right, how am I supposed to fix anything about myself because I’ll just get the fix wrong. So, I’m like, I’m just totally stuck. And I had the first step was to recognize that was not serving me. That belief was not a belief structure that was serving me or helping me in any way, shape or form. It was not honoring to God. It was not helping me to serve him better. It was not helping me to to care about any of the people around me or do anything positive for the rest of the the world or or or uh my my community around me. It was doing nothing zero positive things from that self-loathing belief. So, the first step was to get away from that and just go, you know what, maybe there are some good things about me. Maybe humble maxing isn’t the way.

1:29:56 Maybe uh I just need to be honest that yeah, I’ve got some limitations, but I also do have some skills and some talents. And maybe uh maybe the reason why things haven’t worked out for me all the time isn’t because I’m just incapable and I suck and I’m terrible. Maybe it’s because or or or uh well may maybe it’s because I haven’t actually applied myself for very long. See, another pattern that I had to get rid of was believing that well, you know, I I got trapped in that kind of Christian belief that if God is in a particular thing that you’re doing that it will kind of just work. God will put his effort behind it and his spirit behind it and his power behind it and things doors will open and yeah, it’ll be hard and you’ll have to put in work and you know, it might not go smoothly all the time, but it’ll at least work, right? If God wants it to. And so I interpreted the fact that nothing was working as, oh well, I guess God just doesn’t like me very much. He doesn’t want to do anything through me. And you

1:30:57 know, if God’s against me, then how can I fix how can I fix that? Um, and I had to recognize that, you know, no, a lot of the results that I was getting in life were because I wasn’t actually uh applying myself for long periods of time. Like I wasn’t like picking a direction and just keeping on trying and iterating and and looking at failures and going, “Okay, I failed at that. that didn’t work. Maybe that’s not God telling me that, you know, uh I I I suck and he doesn’t like me and he doesn’t want to do anything with my life. Maybe that’s not what’s going on here. Maybe it’s that I just didn’t keep going long enough to actually figure it out.

1:31:35 And that was when the the real shift started to happen. That’s when I started doing stuff like YouTube. Like when I first started off, I was not good at this. And part of the reason why those videos at the very beginning are still up is because I kind of want guys to see that. I want guys to see how bad I was at this when I first started. I want guys to know that this I didn’t come out as a finished product. I had to I had to put in effort for years. I had to keep trying at this for years to get even mediocre at it like and to gain any like to gain any traction. It took me I think like 2 years before two or I think it was more than that before I actually got monetized like and now for it to be what it is now um it you know it’s it’s the it creates this like snowball effect like you as you keep going in one direction and applying yourself in that direction and you know instead of taking the failures as stopping points and closed doors and saying you know either God is against me

1:32:39 or in most most seems like most guys case today the world is just too broken for things to work it’s like yeah it is very very broken out there not not going to sugarcoat it um and it is very very difficult to succeed right now but it’s not difficult is not impossible and it the biggest difference is the time horizon you can succeed at most things probably not everything right like sometimes there’s hard IQ Q limits on things like my IQ is nowhere near high enough for me to be a physicist and I’m, you know, a bit too old. Neuroplasticity’s gone down. That ship has sailed. That’s not a possibility for me. But there are things that if I apply myself long enough, I can do them, right? So, as things get harder, it’s not that things get impossible. It’s just that it will take more attempts to figure out what works and what doesn’t. It’ll take more tries.

1:33:39 And so it’ll take more time. It’ll take longer for you. It’s not that you can’t succeed at things. It’s that it takes longer. And so that was that was one of the things I had to figure out was like, okay, this is not going to just be a snap of a fingers. I’m going to try this for a little bit and it’s going to work like it did maybe for the boomers who just like showed up to the factory and got a job and just got promoted and promoted promoted and and boom, now they have two houses in a cabin on a lake and you know, five jet skis and they’re, you know, even though they never went to college, you know, because things went fast for them because the speed of the economy was way faster for them. Uh things were moving back then for them.

1:34:21 Uh for for me, no, it’s I’m going to have to recognize that it’s a lot slower and just pick a direction. Just plug away at it. Just keep getting better at it. Keep stacking small wins, recognizing those wins. The more wins you stack, the more confidence you gain. That’s how confidence is built. And um yeah, just yeah, and that that would be I think the main takeaway. If you’re looking for like how do you turn your life around? Start small. Be prepared for it to take a long time and just start stacking wins. Stack small win after small win. Note them like give yourself some credit for them. You know, thank God for them. Give him give him glory and honor. Uh but yeah, be be honest that hey actually maybe God did give me some genuine gifts and I he did give me the capacity to actually get some get some positive results on some things like recognize them and then just keep going in that same direction until you start to see results because yeah it is that much more difficult today that

1:35:24 it’s just going to take more time to succeed at at anything than than ever than than anyone in living memory has experienced at at this point. El Woodedor, where uh where have you been dwelling in the Bible recently? Um I’m in several places. Uh I typically read a little bit of Old Testament, a little bit of New Testament every day. Um, and right now I just finished Jeremiah, which is always one of the ones that I I resonate with because Jeremiah is a prophet who um his whole life was dedicated to a ministry that did not work. God called him to be a prophet to the Israelite people and to call them to repent and tell them, “Hey, change your ways or else you’re going to be destroyed and carried away into captivity.” Um, and God knew full well the entire time that he was directing Jeremiah to do that that the people weren’t going to listen.

1:36:34 So it was like a foregone conclusion that he was going to fail at his ministry at his call to for the people to repent. But he still did it anyway. God still want like it it still served a purpose. It upheld God’s holiness for for God to send someone to warn the people that hey there’s this terrible calamity that’s going to come on you if you guys don’t change your ways. And uh so and and Jeremiah was the person that got asked to do that and Jeremiah was faithful to do it and his life sucked.

1:37:12 It was awful um for most of it. Uh except right up until like the very last little bit of it. He has kind of there’s like a little epilog where he actually lives out a somewhat comfortable ending. Um but most of his life really kind of sucked and was sorrowful because he he kept having to watch people ignore calls to repent. And as you guys could probably put some dots together. Um, I resonate with that because that’s kind of where in a in a sense that’s kind of where I am right now. It’s like I don’t know I I would definitely not classify myself as a prophet. That I think would be ter horribly stupid thing to do. Uh I don’t want to, you know, be one of those people that’s like, you know, TBN, you know, late night Bible. uh you know, grifters who’s, you know, using those titles manipulatively. Uh I don’t I put it this way, I don’t want to be featured on Mike Winger. Uh I don’t want to be somebody that like Mike Winger is doing an expose about how this person’s like

1:38:15 manipulating the title of prophet or something like that. But just like there’s a lot of pieces of what I’m doing that I feel like kind of fit. They’re kind of the same. It’s like, hey, here’s some things that the Bible says, and here’s some things that we’re doing that are not in alignment, and it appears that a lot of these problems we’re experiencing are a direct result of that mismatch.

1:38:39 We should probably change. We should probably change our ways and repent. So, it’s like I’m offering this call to repent and kind of in a sense like warning. It’s not so much like a future warning that we’re headed for calamity. It’s like we kind of are already in the midst of it. Like it it is happening around us. And if we would like to have any shot at changing this, we’re going to have to change our ways. But that message just keeps getting um uh rejected.

1:39:10 Let’s see here. How much change could we see if one of those TRC cons like Matt Walsh gets divorced? And perhaps maybe his wife falsely accuses him of impropriy on the way out. Well, I yeah, like like some of you guys have been uh pointing out, that is exactly what happened to Stephven Crowder. Um, and because like he was very negative about the red pill and basically everything that they were saying um right up until everything happened with his wife.

1:39:41 uh you know m may it turns out maybe uh airing those contract details you know about the Daily with about the Daily Wire wasn’t quite so great and the knock-on effect from that of like you do this well then Matt you know the uh the um Jeremy Boring sent his uh Goon Squad after you to do a hit piece on you and and next thing you know you’re divorced who knows maybe that’s pro that’s probably not like there was probably a lot of other stuff actually going on there. But um yeah, that completely changed his trajectory and it would definitely change someone like there’s no way that these guys can live through it and not change some of their views on it. Um but yeah, I don’t I don’t know that we could bank on that happen uh bank on that happening. Oh, did Crowder get the business? Yes, he did. Uh yeah, he uh yeah, he was a massive a-hole to men. Then when he got divorced, he apologized. That is that’s a pretty Yeah, that’s a pretty good summation of it. Uh for those who don’t know, um what

1:40:50 happened was so he was offered a contract by the Daily Wire. Uh he didn’t like it. It was millions of dollars, but I guess not enough millions of dollars, and they wanted too much control and all of that. So, he went on an episode and like got angry and was just like ripping it to pieces. That offended the people at the Daily Wire. Um, and from that moment on, it appears they were conspiring to take him down. Um, not long after that, somehow, uh, Candace Owens ended up with some footage that was recorded in their home of an argument between Steven Crowder and his wife.

1:41:29 And like it was, first of all, Candace’s uh version of it was heavily edited. Like you can see it jumping around constantly. And she before she showed the video, she just had this monologue where she’s just framing and framing and framing this. I I I’m so just I’m in shock at what I’ve seen. and this is just so horribly oh this is just this is a terrible thing and like calling it abuse and all this stuff and uh or I can’t remember exactly what she said but she was like she was really laying it on thick that oh man Steven was doing this horrible thing before people even watch it so that they have they’re primed to see that in the footage before they even watch it and then like you watch the whole thing and it’s just like yeah that’s a fight I’ve watched couples have these fights before my parents had those fights They didn’t get divorced, but uh his wife used that as grounds to say that he

1:42:23 was uh abusive and I I guess I think is what happened. And but whatever the end result is he got divorced after that. He was not quite so negative about um about the red pill and about men. Uh let me rewind here. There’s a couple interesting questions. H uh Matt, what if they invited you to the whatever podcast? Would you go, bro? Uh, I would go. Um, man, see, there it is again. There’s that that self-deprecating voice in my head. It just, it’s such a natural reflex. I have to put in effort into trying to shut it up. That voice is telling me like, “God, dude, you’re not you’re not on that level. You’re not quick enough. if you’re not sharp enough to really offer something valuable to that environment. Guys, don’t don’t do this to yourselves. Don’t do to yourselves what my brain does to me 24/7. Um, like when you hear that type of stuff, what I’m hearing in my head right now, you have uh full permission

1:43:34 to take those thoughts and go, “Hey, you are not me.” First of all, let’s get that straight. Second of all, I disagree with you. I don’t necessarily believe that I’m completely incapable and I I don’t have anything to offer. You can tell those thoughts that they’re wrong. You have you have full permission to do that. Um, let’s see here. Was there something else? Um, yeah. Anyways, I can’t remember if there’s anything more uh after that in this video. Let’s uh let’s keep playing it for a little bit and see if we find anything of them do it, but it’s not I I don’t count on that happening anymore.

1:44:28 No, I would imagine that you’re probably far more hesitant to jump into a long-term relationship because of what you’ve seen. Uh Jeff H, I’ve heard that voice running in my head for over 60 years and I’m only now getting a handle on it. Yeah. Yeah. I guess I mean again like everything in life it uh it takes time. Yeah. It it t like everything is a fight. Everything takes time. And yeah, like the best thing that you guys can do for yourselves is to just buckle down for the long haul. Um, gather up allies, too. That’s that’s another thing I didn’t mention. Get guys together with you who are in your corner. Um, there’s just no way to do it alone.

1:45:15 So, yeah. Tell you this, it gets to the point where they think everything women in the dating space, I didn’t date for a very long time. Um, that fun. No, there’s a woman who was older uh pretty had her stuff together, but uh mostly, but she uh was kind of sad that she’d never had a family and got married. And I remember talking with her about it. I said, “Well, really? Is that something you’ve always wanted?” She said, “Yeah, I always did.” I said, “But didn’t you kind of go backpacking for like a decade and travel?” And didn’t you like a decade?

1:45:40 Yeah. Went to school, but then became a bartender, you know? And I said, “So, you really weren’t living like someone who was actually pursuing a a husband and a family?” She said, “Are you negging me right now?” And that’s when I learned what it meant. You’re saying something negative to me to tear me down so that you can control me when you build me back up. I said, “No, it’s a legitimate criticism. You find yourself closer.” It’s like, “Yeah, women have developed these antibodies against criticism. It’s all just framing.

1:46:08 It’s just like, oh, oh, you’re saying something negative about me.“ Well, that’s obviously a control tactic. And again, it all centers around power, right? Power is, you know, of course, that’s the thing that people need supposedly. They need this, you know, they need control, they need power in order to be, you know, safe, valuable, and happy. Uh, everybody needs to first and foremost have complete autonomy and control over themselves in all situations at all times. Otherwise, they’re being oppressed. And so, that’s why everything gets put into this lens of like, oh, well, if a woman doesn’t like something, she’ll just well, she’ll put it into this bucket of control. Oh, well, she’s Yeah, you’re obviously trying to control me. No, no. Uh, I’m telling you the truth, probably for the first time in a long time. So, yeah. Uh, I’m I’m super glad that he’s saying this stuff. Like, I’ve been trying to get this stuff out here for uh Yeah, anything negative is misogyny. Yeah, that’s that’s basically how how they

1:47:08 view it. Um, it’s all just framing. And if we just step back and recognize the frame and recognize it for what it is, recognize it for the manipulation that it is, it loses so much of its power. Um because again, the reason why people say that stuff is is not because they believe it’s true. It’s because they believe that they’re reciting an incantation. They believe they’re casting a spell.

1:47:39 They they’re using a form of magic that has an effect in the world. I say this incantation and a thing happens because largely that’s been the the uh the experience they’ve had through most of their life is when they say certain things people will cower in fear or they’ll go yes miss whatever you desire. Right? They’re used to being able to say certain phrases like oh you’re negging me and having a guy go oh okay I’m sorry no I’ll never do that again. Um, right.

1:48:08 They they they say the incantation, they say the spell, and they get what they want. But the moment you recognize it for what it is, it’s just a control. Like I the more I see this stuff, the more like anytime you see a woman saying something negative about men or complaining about something, look for the projection. Just look for the look for the projection. Um, if Yeah. If they’re saying, “Oh, you’re you’re trying to control me.” Well, no.

1:48:41 Chances are what she just said was an attempt to control you because that’s what it was. That’s not the truth. It isn’t truth that you’re neg that in this case that he was he was negging her and trying to control her. Um, no. What was happening was he was just giving a telling the truth and giving a legitimate criticism or at least like asking a question which you should be allowed to do. She flips it around, turns it turns the premise into a weapon and you know points that weapon at him and says, “Oh, you better not be trying to do something that I don’t want you to do here.” Yeah, it’s just control.

1:49:21 So if she says you’re controlling me, it’s usually an attempt to control you. The moment you recognize that stuff, the power just dissolves and fades out of it. 40 saying you’ve always wanted this, but you specifically lived your life in a way that would have precluded you from finding this. And we had that, but that was that’s negging. They are so impervious to constructive advice, let alone criticism. And that’s why if you look at these people who are experts in social studies, they’re saying this is bad, but no one wants to.

1:49:51 Yeah. It’s not healthy for them. Like if nobody can tell you, hey, there’s improvements you can make on yourself and your choices, your behavior, and all of that, you’re not going to turn into a healthy adult human. This is part of the reason why I don’t really fully accept this sort of uh manosphere conclusion that well, this is just women’s nature. They just are this way. I don’t know that we can conclusively say that when we’ve been just totally letting women go completely grass-fed free range and we do nothing to hold them to any kind of standard of behavior. We do nothing to try to help them grow into the best people that they can be. What if we did do that? Maybe they wouldn’t quite be so anim animalistic all the time. Maybe we haven’t tried it in a while. I mean, we used to, and it seems like it worked a little better back when we did, back when we actually tried to help women be the best version of themselves.

1:50:51 I don’t know, maybe I’m crazy. Speak the truth. There’s only one way to fix it, and it’s it’s got to be with fixing women. You can’t go and fix What are you going to tell young men? Hey, you need to stop hating women. You’re going to have 80% of them go, “What? We love women. Hey, you need not all women look like your precious magazines, buddy.” Like, what? We fine. We I ra that girl like next door. I rate her like an eight. It’s fine. I date her. Yeah.

1:51:13 But if you go to the woman, no one wants to do this. Hey, not everyone is is Allan Richson on steroids. You have to understand, well, I you know, I just don’t date anything less than a four. Not every guy makes six figures and has a six-pack. Well, I know what I deserve. That’s you got to you got to fix the part that’s truly broken. It’s not right. It’s like you’re we’re never going to fix any of that behavior, that selfishness, that pride if you don’t first acknowledge that that is the core problem in the relationship sphere right now. Like again, we cannot get sucked into the equality fallacy and and thinking to ourselves, oh well, because there is a problem, it must be that both sides are equally to blame at least, right? That’s a total fallacy. this idea that no well yeah maybe women have some respon like that’s the best you can do in most of these conversations that you’ll have with with most conservatives

1:52:10 not named Steven Crowder uh is yeah I guess you know there’s some problems on the women’s side but there’s problems on the men’s side too right they’re they’re you know they’re causing problems too you know they’re get this alt-right pipeline is really making them dislike women well that’s not true it just isn’t true like most men really like most women and would date them and would marry them and would be happy with them and would most probably most would treat them quite well. You know, because most guys haven’t been spoiled for choice with women, you know, like the top 2% of guys that most women are focusing on.

1:52:51 Yeah. So, that’s what he’s describing is the two levers. Like the guy’s side of the lever is already most of the way pulled. Like they’re already like what what are you going to do? Like I Hey, stop dis like he’s he’s right. Like oh stop disliking women. Most of us already do like women. Like the lever is already pulled and you’re you keep yanking on it and cranking on it harder as if that’s going to produce results. Well, the other lever is just it’s still fully up at the top and it hasn’t been touched.

1:53:21 Maybe you need to deal with the side of the equation that’s broken. Grass-fed would be better than the cornfed that we seem to have now. If grass-fed equals fed God’s word, cornfed equals uh words of wisdom. Uh I thought you were gonna I thought that was going to go a very different direction. Uh we’ll put it this way. There’s a guy I used to know that they they they call him cornfed uh cuz he was a uh good old southern boys, very large uh highly caloried dude. Um and so I I thought you were going to say, “Hey, I thought you were making a different joke.” But yeah, that um yeah, well that that goes back to what we’ve been saying this whole time. If it’s a sin issue, which I firmly believe it is, if it’s a heart issue, well then you got to start feeding them true gospel, not this toothless version of it that puts all of the responsibility on men to repent and improve themselves and do better and and and uh genuinely serve and love and seek

1:54:31 others and put the put their own flesh to death and and care about something other than themselves. They need a version of the gospel that places them in that, too. And so you need we we need to start teaching them the word without removing the stuff that talks to women specifically. And you know like hey I know it says that you know you should God made you to be a helper to the man but let’s spend half an hour talking about what that doesn’t mean so that we don’t offend your sensibilities. No, maybe let’s have a sermon that gives some illustrations about what that does look like. There plenty of proverbs, plenty of scriptures that describe it.

1:55:10 We could, but we don’t. Um, let’s see. Even doing it anymore. Six pack. Six. It’s That’s not like I know he gives a anymore. It’s I know. You ever hear what a woman refers to as dad bod? Yeah, like we should do that. We should just bring in a bunch of women and ask them like, “Is this deadbod? Is this dad bod? Is this dead bod?” Show them the Mr. Olympia 3 days after Mr. Olympia when he’s gained some water and they’re like, “Dadb like that’s Ronnie Coleman.”

1:55:56 I think I think men can fix this. Uh I think there’s a solution. You know, you you find a a a gal you like that you really want to date and maybe settle down with a gal because it’s the 1950s. Go on. Yeah. Well, I’m being polite. You find a You find a dame. Find yourself a nice skirt. A damsel. Yeah. Yeah. You see a good Yeah. What you do is you find her you find her route to work. You see, you follow her there. Then you follow her home.

1:56:19 That’s right. See, then you get then you get access to her internet. Then you smack around. Say, “Catch you. You can get yourself together.” Find a girl with a nice tall tree. Sit in that. Get some binoculars. All right. Let’s get back to the point you’re making. I cut you off with this stupid horseshit. You keep Yeah. You just keep uh you keep watching this chick. You keep uh you know, following her around, learning all the things that she’s into. And then uh you know you introduce yourself a couple times and then oh we accidentally ran into each other at the coffee shop.

1:56:42 That’s crazy. And then eventually you know you’re both 45 and she has to settle down with somebody. Perfect. And you know everything about her. That’s true. You even know the code to her front door. And even more importantly at that point you have leverage. Hey, if you’re still watching this you may be one of the 6 million or so subscribers uh on YouTube. This is an interesting video. I’m going to put the link to this in the chat for one reason or another. I I don’t understand it. Still here. So, back in the day, I would say click uh Yeah. So, that’s that. Um Yeah.

1:57:22 Oh, yeah. It looks like Yeah. So, some people are saying that yeah, it’s impossible to get women to be founded on scripture. Um, but or at least there’s one guy saying that. I don’t think that’s true. I don’t know. I know I know women who are. I know it’s possible because I’ve seen it. It’s just it’s it like we got to be careful of extremist thinking. Like it’s all or nothing, black or white, 100% 0%. that’s just never an accurate reflection of reality or it’s exceptionally rare for there to be things like that that it’s just it’s all or nothing when you’re dealing especially when you’re dealing with large groups of people. Um the numbers low and that’s frustrating and that makes us feel like feelings that tell us oh it’s it’s zero it’s none can’t happen it’s not possible they’re not capable.

1:58:12 Um, yeah, that’s just that isn’t a that isn’t an accurate description of reality. I understand where it’s coming from, but yeah, I’m I know that there are women out there who are, which is part of this. That’s part of the reason why I say that this is the solution is because I’ve seen it work. When women are uh truly in line with God’s word, when they truly build themselves on top of what God’s word says in an honest fashion, not according to our sort of feminist reinterpretations of it, uh they can be exceptionally good wives and I like I know guys who married exceptionally well in that area and their marriages are surprise surprise very healthy and have been for a long time. And I know guys at every stage of the age ranges for those saying, “Oh, it’s just a time bomb and it’s going to explode at some point and you know, she’ll show her true colors eventually.” I most of the guys that I’ve known for most of my life have, you know, uh who who are in that category of they

1:59:23 married well and they mar in the sense that they married a a scripture-based woman, like a genuinely scripture-based woman. Hasn’t come off the rails. didn’t come off the rails at 5 years, didn’t come off the rails at 15 years, didn’t come off at 25, didn’t come off at 50 years. Like the like I’ve seen a very consistent pattern that when the wife especially is genuinely humble, genuinely outward focused and genuinely does that because that is uh her act of worship to God. And she is doing that because she truly recognized how loved she’s been by God and how much God sacrificed for her. And she’s doing that out of gratitude for him. Like it’s genuine. It’s real. It’s rare for that to happen. That is not the majority of humans. Uh it’s called the narrow path for a reason, right? Jesus said like make every effort to enter by the narrow gate.

2:00:23 Most people will not, but it is possible and it is a thing and we could have more. We could have far more women in that category who are genuinely entering through the narrow gate. Um, but that’s why I keep saying this comes back to the the men who are responsible for teaching and administering that. We do that with the men. We hold them to the standards. That’s part of the reason why the stats are so lopsided on this.

2:00:50 That’s part of the reason why the guys aren’t doing quite so bad. They actually do still like the girls and they actually do uh still uh they do still rate the women normally in terms of attractiveness. That’s why they they many of them are still working on themselves. Yeah, there are a decent number of guys that have checked out but that is in some sense overblown. Um, so rail guy, uh, so what can normal guys do? Ones who aren’t married and don’t have influence in their church. Um, it numbers if well it depends. If you’re talking about like how can you affect reform in the church? Um, because you know because you don’t have influence as an individual unmarried man, which is very real. Um, how do like if you if what you mean is like how do you get those guys doing their job again? We can’t go alone. You absolutely can’t do it by yourself. That’s not going to work because they can very easily brush you

2:01:52 aside as an outlier. Uh the only way is numbers. Go have conversations with other guys in your communities. Get them together. Like get guys together who see this and get them together in a group so that you can grow together. and uh like form a coalition like multi force think force multipliers uh you know the movie 300 uh like they they had only had 300 guys fighting against a million soldiers or whatever I mean it’s like a thousand if you had the ocadians or whatever but they went to this narrow corridor acted as a force multiplier look for any kind of force multiplier that you can that’s the only way you’re going to do it the verse is going to be gathering up a coalition so that you’re not going alone. Um, Mark Vender, Mark Vendy, super chat. Thank you, by the way. Um, in utter irony, the daughter who turned on Steven Anderson is of exemplary conduct. His quote abuse worked.

2:02:56 Um, if you want more context, we were talking about um, well, we weren’t. I was watching the chat. Oh, context is they’re talking about um sorry because yeah I don’t actually know this story. Yeah, context. So in the chat they’re talking about headship in in the household. Okay. And how when a man has authority in his household as he should, right? Um his argument is that there should be some sort of form of fear of physical consequences for disobedience.

2:03:31 Um, I know that that most people think of that more in terms of um children, right? Like with physical punishment. Uh, but he also kind of made the argument that that might apply to the wife as well. Um, and so that’s why he made that super chat. So, okay. Um, so yeah, I don’t know if you want to talk about that, but that’s the context of the conversation. Yeah. Um, yeah. I mean in scripture there I mean it does say I think several times uh you know spare the rod spoil the child. That is a real thing that we don’t want to talk about today. We don’t want to admit it. Um you know in our culture of niceness and and anti-force um but yeah if you don’t administer consequences people they don’t change.

2:04:26 Now it scripture as far as I know only talks about that in in the context of parents and children. Uh spouses yeah I don’t know if you quite have grounds in scripture to say that that should you know go towards your wife. Uh yeah I think you’d be real hardressed to make the argument that that’s there in the text. Um, but that doesn’t rule out consequences. And most consequences, like at the end of the day, you should not ever need to do anything more than administer natural consequences.

2:05:03 Most of the time, if you just allow her to experience the natural consequences of her choices and her actions and her words immediately, uh you won’t have to do anything yourself. Most of the what most of uh the So, let’s let’s look let’s back this up. Let’s look at guys for a second. Most of the reason why guys are, you know, a bit more reigned in is because they’ve just they just go out there and live their life and life gives them consequences. It gives them immediate feedback.

2:05:39 Life doesn’t have to physically punch them in the face. Doesn’t need to. It just it it administers feedback in the form of consequences. You make a choice. Oh, well, I made a good choice. Maybe a good thing happens. If I make a bad choice, bad things happen. Uh most of the reason why you’re seeing this complete disconnect from reality with women is because other people swoop in and take away their consequences from them because we’re told that that’s the loving thing to do. So, uh you can oftenimes just start with, hey, just let her if she’s going to do something really stupid. Maybe not in all scenarios, maybe you do have an obligation to protect her from like genuinely harmfully dangerous threats, but in an appropriate situation, maybe just allow her to experience the consequences of her behavior instead of swooping in to save her and let that natural consequence teach her. There’s a book that actually talks about this quite a lot. Um Henry Cloud John Townsen

2:06:45 have a masterful book called boundaries and that’s one of the base premises of this is that uh we often times do the worst thing that we possibly can for other people in the name of love. And that is we uh we allow them to well we swoop in and we protect them from things that they should be experiencing themselves. Like for example, if like one of the stories he tells is about a uh a kid who um uh like there his parents were, you know, somewhat wealthy and they uh they were he this kid was just like he was drug addict, messed up, baked out of his mind, making dumb decisions, but they would constantly bail him out of jail and bail him out of you know financial problems and things like that. And he never learned. he never grew because he never had to. He never experienced a consequence in his life for any of his dumb decisions. So, I don’t know, maybe if your uh like for let’s let’s translate that into a marriage. Let’s say if your you know wife is buying a bunch of dumb stuff and you guys are

2:07:58 going into massive debt like uh Asmin Gold was watching that video uh of uh that couple. It was just it was it Caleb Hammer. That’s right. That’s what it was. Caleb Hammer was interviewing this couple and they the wife had sunk them into like $20,000 of debt on Leuboo’s alone. Maybe you could curb some of that bad behavior by uh saying, “You know what? No, I’m not going to put my money into a bank account that you have access to.”

2:08:34 And if like if I’m working, I’m bringing in this money. Let’s get rid of this whole Christian idea of, oh, it’s our money just always. We’re married. It’s just our money. Um, no. I’m gonna if you if you can’t be trusted with how you use this money, okay, I’m going to establish a boundary, a healthy boundary, and that that allows you to experience consequences for your behavior. I’m not going to pour my money into a bank account that you have access to. I’m going to give you an amount of money uh into your bank account that allows you to buy whatever you need to buy plus a little extra.

2:09:11 Uh by the way, my wife and I both have extra accounts that like we have one main bills account. Um and uh like I have a separate account that I can just buy whatever I want out of. Um and so does she. And what that does though is, okay, so if this woman is buying tons and tons of stupid liaboos and and garbage that she doesn’t need, and she buys too much, she runs out, she can’t buy anymore.

2:09:40 There’s just nothing there. There’s no money in the account. The the payment gets declined. Uh consequence enacted, boundary established. Sometimes that’s all you need to do is just set up ways for for women to experience the natural consequences of their behavior instead of constantly being like, “Okay, fine. She spent too much. Okay, how do I get her out of this? How do how do I get out us out of this mess that she dug for us?” Um, yeah.

2:10:21 Let’s see. Matt, the point has already passed, but I think you would be far better off uh be far better use in general Christian circle than the whatever podcast. That podcast viewers are already well clued in on the women’s issue, whereas the mainstream lacks a good voice for accountability. that is also saying um yeah what podcasts what Christian podcasts would be good to go on or or or things that uh would be useful I don’t know uh Michael’s saying under curvature law at common law men were able to physically discipline wives children and slaves because the man was responsible for his own home. Um yeah, common law. Um and then there’s, you know, there’s the the Orthodox Christian idea of or or and I I mean Catholics used to have this this idea too of um shoot, I forget what they call it. Um but yeah, they’re they’re version of just like life laws. Um again, those don’t come from scripture. That’s those aren’t you’re not getting those from

2:11:32 Jesus’s mouth. You’re not getting those from the apostles mouth. That’s stuff that was added later. And you know, and that stuff that was added later, it’s like, well, okay, we have to be a lot more critical of it because and we have to match it up to what scripture says. Uh I because look, anybody can come along later and invent any form of governorship that they want to. Does that mean that it’s aligned with with God’s intent or his design?

2:12:04 I I I I wouldn’t go that far. Um so yeah, but yes, I I get that there is a sense in whichever form it takes um yeah, men are going to ultimately be held responsible for their their their family and the outcomes of the people that are uh that you know that God and the state entrust to them. And that that’s today. That’s not just back then, that’s now too. Um there you as a man, you will be held accountable.

2:12:40 Uh you the consequences will come onto your shoulders for whatever happens in your household. Um, and yes, men should be able to steer the direction of the people in their household and steer the direction of their household in general because they’re the ones who receive the consequences and have to fix the problems and and uh and provide for the needs, right? They’re the ones who have to if there’s bad consequences a lot of times, yeah, they’re the only one who can fix the problem. Like if okay, so you did get into $20,000 of Leubu debt.

2:13:17 Okay, maybe you can establish boundaries going forward, but that’s a problem still the man’s going to have to fix it cuz nobody else is going to necessarily. Maybe you get her out there and get her, you know, getting her own job. Maybe she can’t. I don’t know. But there’s going to be a lot of stuff that whether we like it or not is going to be put on our shoulders that we have to fix. And there’s going to be a lot of outcomes like for our kids if we have them. What outcomes they get up to in life, you know, whether they end up being criminals or solid people. Either way, you know, if if whether we have to bail them out of jail or or debt or whatever, you know, there’s going to be times where, yeah, we are the we’re the ones that people are going to look at and go, “Hey, this person is messed up. This person’s, you know, causing problems. um what did you do as a dad? Right? People are going to look at you and so yes, it makes perfect sense that we should be able to affect that outcome somehow, but

2:14:16 we’re not given a way to do it right now. And so I understand perfectly why people are reaching for the physical lever. Um, you know, it’s like we’ve had this pendulum shift away from, you know, sort of using whatever is necessary to get the outcomes in the best direction possible. We’ve had a pendulum swing swing away from that to no, men can’t use any leverage at all because that’s control. And any power use over another person, that’s evil. Be that’s oppressive because that false feminist power premise.

2:14:51 And now it’s a guess we’re I I understand we’re in a pendulum swing that’s headed back to the opposite extreme. That doesn’t automatically make the opposite extreme correct. Um I am a person that I want balance in everything because balance is the balance is always in my experience in my life it’s always been the healthiest thing. It’s always been the healthiest place to be. Um and so yeah I’m I’m looking for balance.

2:15:21 Let’s see here. I don’t know how much we’re finding it. It’s an interesting topic. Um, let me see here. There were some other things that I wanted to look at uh before we before we get too much further along. Oh, excuse me. This video. So, this is this actually adds a little bit of context that there’s a point in this video where he adds a little bit of um context to what Stephen was talking about. He talks a little slow, so I’m going to speed him up a little bit. Um this is Echo Chamberlain. Some of you guys might uh might know um might know who that is, but yeah, we’ll watch some of this. It’s fairly long, so I don’t think we’ll watch the whole thing, but yeah, he he makes an excellent point here.

2:16:26 Lori Penny, a gender queer, pansexual author of several books on feminism, posted, “May I take this opportunity to congratulate all the anti-wokers for winning their precious little culture war. Well done, guys. Hope the liberal tears were worth it, guys. Just how worth it was it? Every narrative that millenni Penny, a genderqueer, pansexual author of several books on feminism, posted, “May I take this opportunity to congratulate all the anti-wokers for winning their precious this little culture war. Well done, guys. Hope the liberal tears were worth it, guys. Just how worth it was it?

2:17:23 Every narrative that millennial feminist women have created in the media is either flawed or plain wrong. The crisis of masculinity narrative of men falling behind in a drift is false. The manosphere as an online cesspool drawing in vast numbers of impressionable boys and maligning them is an overblown cultural panic and also false. And the narrative that the loneliness crisis is heavily skewed toward men is also false.

2:17:41 Over dozens of hours of research and editing. Oh, am I muted? Yes, I’m muted. Man, I’m uh Someday I’ll get good at this. Again, going back to like everything in life, you start off kind of sucking at it. Hey, this is my third live stream ever. Nothing’s uh nothing’s going to be perfect. I’m so happy that you guys are here with me and and that you’re uh at least someone enjoying it. No sound. No sound. Is there no sound? There should be sound now.

2:18:40 I’m coming through now. Am I? Yes. Sound. There it is. It’s just on a delay. It takes a little time. Sorry about that. Uh, so sorry guys. I’ve accumulated the evidence to show that what you’ve been hearing is does Oh, anyways. Yeah, what what was what I was saying? Um, some of the stuff that he says in there, some of his headline bullet points about those narratives being totally false. Well, there’s nuance there cuz like Yeah. So the the loneliness epidemic being just men. No, it isn’t just men. Women are actually also very lonely, but you do also have higher rates of men unaliving themselves and they’re seem to be taking it quite a bit harder. So there’s nuance behind all of those, but there are reasons why he says all of this stuff that will make sense in in just a little bit.

2:19:27 Thousands of progressive millennial feminist writers and established media putting out slight variations of the same pieces, casting masculinity in a negative light based on vibes and not data. Here’s the full story about men, millennial feminist women, and the narratives. Okay. Does anybody recognize this picture from anywhere? This is what got this is I I I don’t usually watch his videos, but I I watched to this point and I saw this and I was like, “Hey, wait a second. I recognize that picture from somewhere.” And then that that got me to watch a bunch more of the video. Um, yeah, that’s from a thumbnail on one of my videos. There is no possible way that he got it anywhere else. You want to know how I know that? I generated that picture on chat GBT and then I put some other stuff on it like that that line that’s going behind it. So I guess either he at the very least saw uh one of my video thumbnails

2:20:18 scrolling along and screen capped it if not actually watched the video. This is from one of the the timeline of the dating collapse videos. So I was like, “Okay, so this guy uh at least is tangentally aware maybe of some of the stuff that I’ve been talking about. Let’s see what he has to say about it of modernity. And it’s interesting. Progressive white women imagined that when feminism enabled them to meaningfully take the cultural reigns, their vibe of emotional intelligence and social justice inclusivity would put everything in a better state. What we’ve learned after a decade or so of media cheerleading and endless frighting about toxic masculinity is that women and progressive white women in particular are just as bad as men and don’t really have all the answers. We had empowered girl boss characters on screen and it didn’t work. The result wasn’t a brave new world in entertainment but declining viewership and cultural fatigue where everyone’s afraid to admit they’re bored. We tried body positivity and it didn’t work and no one was genuinely

2:21:09 into it and it’s lost cultural legitimacy. I’m disappointed in your species. And we tried pronouns and bio and unfettered solidarity with the trans community and it didn’t work and respected institutional higher-ups pulled the brakes on it and the spike of college students identifying as trans or non-binary has fallen away. And we tried more inclusive empathy based attitudes and practices in gaming and it didn’t work and only alienated the existing fan base. What do we have do like Concord four at this point? We had Concord, we had High Guard. Uh Marathon, not great. Uh and then what’s the the uh what’s the one that’s coming out next?

2:21:43 The uh Horizon Zero or Horizon one with the uh overcalaried Hunter. Yeah. And brought forth ridiculous memes and contrived ideas and commercial failures. And now we’re trying white chick book talk fiction out as a cinematic aesthetic. This is already terrible. The way Academy Award winner Emerald Finale gets under the skin of intellectuals and cinnaphiles should be studied. She’s a provocator operating at the highest of Wthering Heights and it drives them insane and I absolutely love it. Some private school kid making immature edge slop doesn’t equate to being an insightful countercultural girl boss moment. Anytime you love a piece of art for how it makes other people react, you’re demonstrating that you don’t know much about art.

2:22:21 Yeah, I’ve been internalizing a really complicated situation in my head. Most of all, we tried expanding female empowerment while also maintaining some of the old norms that are advantageous to women and a kind of socioultural pick and mix so that attitudes that are deeply toxic and undesirable in men are now being validated and repackaged in women. A narrative that set in was that when men don’t date, it’s Yeah, that’s and we can’t skip too p too far past that either. Again, projection.

2:22:45 Whatever it is they say you’re doing wrong is precisely the thing that they’re doing most of the time, right? It’s all this stuff that they say is bad for men to do is good for them to do. And again, it comes back to the power thing. Like they they think power power is the prize. It’s the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. And they think men are the leprechauns sitting on it.

2:23:04 And they want that gold. And so they feel like they have to kick men away from it and say, “No, power is ours.” That anything that leads to power and status, we got to take it from you because you know you you’ve been withholding it from us forever. So if competence leads to power and status, well then we have to be the competent girl bosses in all of the media and project that and you know speak that into existence. If uh you know if whatever it is, if it’s uh you know if having people in positions of power makes us better and more valuable, well then you got to make it 50/50 on every every board of directors and every every leadership place everywhere. It’s like no. Uh or or if it’s that attitude, oh, I’ve got an attitude, you know, I just I don’t care what anybody thinks and I only care about me. They think that’s what masculinity is. They think that gives you power and so and status and they so they they’re like, “Well, it’s good when we do it because we deserve it. We now because we haven’t had any of

2:24:07 that for a long time. You withheld it from us.“ So that’s why they think that them being this unhinged, toxically masculine girl boss is a good thing for them, but it’s bad for you. Because if men have power, oh boy. Oh, men are the mean, nasty ones who do, you know, bad things to people. They do bad things to women. So we can’t let them have power because then they’ll misuse it. So we got to take away anything that we think gives them power or status. We got to take competence away from them. got to take any edge or attitude away from them. You know, it’s take it away, transplant it over because they’re retreating from intimacy. When women don’t date, it’s because of emotional labor. Men couldn’t legitimately be frustrated and burnt out by scrambled messaging, elevated expectations, contradictory or hypocritical gender and dating paradigms. As Chris Rock once said, “Only women, children, and dogs

2:24:56 are loved unconditionally. A man is only loved under the condition that he provides something.“ Women can feel that it is affirming and lovely for a 6’2 handsome man with a petite Philippe watch and crisp white shirt to approach them in public. But a less attractive man making a carbon copy approach can be contextualized as exercising a dated masculine presumption to be able to impinge upon a woman in public where she has a right to not be pested. So of course there is now a widespread reticence among young men to approach women or attempt to flirt because there is a considerable likelihood they will be made to feel they are being creepy.

2:25:22 In the cultural it is never brought up that women have any responsibility for the development of these gender models. It is only ever narratives of male diffidence in retreat. masculinity that is simultaneously toxic for being too in her space and too aggressive. And masculinity in crisis for being incelish, removed, and keeping distance. 66% of men under 30 are single. They aren’t all giving up. Many are opting out of a transaction that no longer makes sense and where the center no longer holds. Men want sex, intimacy, validation. Porn gives them a low-risk, low-cost simulation of it. Women want attention, resources, reassurance, desiraability. Social media gives them a low-risk, scalable version of it. when you can get a diluted version.

2:25:56 Neither of those versions of it are act are authentic but give you anything real. Uh they they are they’re faximiles of it like he’s saying they’re they’re representations of it but they’re not the real thing which is why people are just they’re feeling you know absolutely destroyed over their lives and how how bad things are going. That’s why everybody’s perception of how things are going is so terrible. It’s because the only things we have that are even from for a lot of people that are even close to that stuff is just just a a a vapor like a a a like a a like a I don’t know a ghost version of it that’s not real. It has no substance. You can’t grab a hold of it.

2:26:38 Um people want something authentic right now and the there’s just very little of it to find what you want more cheaply and more safely elsewhere. You stop entering the higher risk exchange. So relationships decline. Prevailing social attitudes set in place by and affirmed by women have drastically reduced the amount of suitors online and in real life willing to engage with them at all. Kita to feminism and eleach.

2:27:01 And it should be noted the current discourse swirling around about men dating much younger women ignores the hypocrisy of a proliferation of mainstream media celebrating older women with much younger guy romance. Again, it’s a clumsy glitchy sense that women should be able to have it all. And even if there are contradictions, well, men had it all for so long. So why shouldn’t women sacily get their share of everything? Yeah, such none of this matters. It’s such a great way.

2:27:21 Even the inherent nature of gender itself has been discombobulated by progressive white women. The logic is that women are more emotionally mature than men, able to strike deeper registers of empathy and nuanced feeling or at the very least emotional registers that are different to that of men and off limits to them and which are inherently feminine and which are they don’t get to gaslight their way out of feminism. That’s actually Yeah, that’s so interesting that that you say that.

2:27:41 Like at the beginning they’re like, “Oh yeah, you won the culture war, guys. Are you happy now?” There was a comment I saw. I want to see if I can find it. Um, let’s see. Uh, oh. Uh, they haven’t lost the culture, they’ve lost to reality. No, that this one. Um, let’s see here. You won like quote, “You won, guys. Woke is dead, so stop fighting.” No, I don’t think I will. Yeah, it’s like they this is it’s all framing a narrative. It’s like, okay, maybe if we can convince the guys that they won and oh, we’re just we’re so defeated. Look at us. Poor things. You got you you got us, guys. Oh, man.

2:28:26 Shucks. Poor us. Don’t you want to come rescue us now? Like the It’s more just sort of emotional leveraging and manipulation. I’m glad to see that the guys aren’t falling for it. They’re not like uh Yeah, it’s Oh, please come back to us, guys. Oh, we’re Look at us. poor helpless women. Again, they’re trying to hack that instinct we have to protect and rescue and defend women. It’s not a bad instinct. I’m not trying to I’m not saying that like, oh, just get rid of that. Go completely the extreme opposite and never care about women. Never try to, you know, help them or or or rescue them from anything. It’s just no. Don’t let them hack you.

2:29:05 Don’t let them hack that desire to get what they want from you. And that’s precisely what they’re trying to do with this. It’s just the same tactic repackaged in a different thing. Anyways, just keep going with this. Bold and undeniable, whilst also fragilely susceptible to being quashed and overwritten by men personally and professionally, while at the same time femininity is also questionable as a concept when it comes to gender studies, ideology, and allyship with the trans.

2:29:30 They think we’re stupid. Yes, they do think. Well, yeah. Well, okay, let’s be real. This stuff worked. Listen, I look I’ll just say that like there’s a reason why they’re behaving this way. For a long long time, it worked. It really worked. Like on boomers, a lot of the Gen X out there, a lot of them, it this these incantations, these spells that they’re casting by saying these these phrases and these words and using framing like this, it worked. I don’t know if that makes us stupid, but it does make us susceptible. And so it’s like they’re not they’re not total idiots for trying this tactic because it worked. And so yeah, we like that that’s why we got to like we need videos like this that call it out and bring attention to it because the more you bring out of the sha more you bring this stuff out of the shadows, the less power it has. It dispels that uh that incantation uh that that brain hack that they’re

2:30:31 using that just you bring it out in the open and go, “Oh, that’s what you’re doing. I see it.” Yeah. people don’t give in as much. So, community depends on the idea of gender being socially constructed and not innate. Because if it were innate, it would call into question the legitimacy of changing from one gender to another. While at the same time, once the transition has taken place, all of that no longer matters because the transitioned person is now authentically the alternate gender. Which means depending on the hour, the mood, or the outfit, gender can be either inherent or socially constructed. For 50 years, Scandinavian countries tried social constructivism. that gender differences in behavior, career choices and personality traits are largely or entirely the result of socialization, not biology. And if you eliminate the social and institutional pressures shaping people into men and women, you should in theory see more gender convergence. What actually happened was the opposite. The more egalitarian the society, the more pronounced the gender

2:31:20 differences became. But despite the jury being in, government advisory boards and developers of school programs to address misogyny and violence among young men and UK cabinet ministers who watched that show adolescence still have the belief that young men aren’t struggling to regulate their inherent masculinity, but that their masculinity is just outdated performative roles they feel pressured to inhabit and that such roles and behavior ought to be deconstructed to bring forth the more authentic, sensitive, emotionally attuned young man within. You know, the ideal types you see as characters in films and streaming. Can’t wait for the new Bible version, Happy Life, Eat, Love, and Pray Edition. Um, there actually was a woman’s Bible. This was one of the first things that the First Wave feminists did is they actually went back and wrote their own version of the Bible because they knew that the actual thing obliterates their message. Um, and so they, yeah, they had to reinterpret it,

2:32:10 re-ransate it, rewrite it basically, and come up with their own. Yeah. They called Godishy uh Bible Wasp Mom edition. Yeah. Uh yeah. So that’s that’s real. I I know you’re joking, but that is an actual thing that happened and it happened that was one of the first things they did. Um it’s they do it much more subtly now. They just take the same Bible and and you know get you know that they go oh well see no this passage see this word here that says uh submit. No, that doesn’t it’s not the same word as obey.

2:32:46 So, it doesn’t mean that. No, it’s just like uh as one pastor put it, it’s just a it’s like a yield sign. Now, stop sign means obey. Just do what it says without thinking. Uh a yield sign means well, stop and look, and if things look right, then you can go. If it looks like you need to stop, then you need to stop. It’s like, does that sound like it’s more than submission or less than submission? Sounds like it’s a lot less than the kind of submission that we give to God. Do we get to take that attitude and our submission to God if we’re Christians? No. Do we get to say, “Hey, God, um I know you you said that I need to do this thing, but you know, I’m looking around and it doesn’t look right to me. You know, I’m I’m at your yield sign and I’m looking around right now and it doesn’t look like I should be doing what you you just told me to do.

2:33:32 So, I’m just not going to do it.“ Of Yeah, that’s a totally false reinterpretation. Um, so yeah, instead of actually rewriting the Bible because that was too egregious and it didn’t really catch on, it just turned into sermonizing and and and re-ransating and reinterpreting it that way. Just changing the meanings of the words that were already in it. Shows who are dreily benign and pussy-ish creations of writer rooms populated disproportionately by progressive white women. in the minds of Los Angeles-based screenwriters in their 20s.

2:34:00 Rail guy in the Greek it means put yourself under the authority of which makes perfect sense considering the next part is literally as unto the Lord. Well, and another part that you will almost never hear talked about in most churches is that uh when because Paul says that phrase, you know, uh wives submit to your husbands uh twice in two different books. Peter actually says basically the same thing, too. I’m pretty sure it’s Peter. Uh but when he when he says it, he actually uh you uh he gives an example of what it looks like and he talks about uh he talks about how uh Sarah uh submitted to Abraham and called you know and and in that instance he actually is talking about obedience like she did what Abraham told her to do. you will almost never hear that part of the passage described or talked about. Um, and if you do the the mental gymnastics to get around that part of it, like what what’s happening when you hear

2:35:04 those types of sermons is uh there the the pastor teaching it will try to get it into the land of theory where they can control the meanings and say, “Well, see this word says this, but actually conceptually it means this.” But the problem is when you actually go and look at the stories, story examples always come ahead when just basic hermeneutical principle when you’re interpreting the Bible.

2:35:33 When you’re looking at a story example, the story example always comes ahead of any theoretical conceptual interpretation you have of what’s going on or what the what the passage says. So in this instance, because what you see is a pastor is taking that phrase and saying, “Hey, submission.” Well, no, it doesn’t really mean obey or submit or anything like that. It it just means um you know, kind of have some reverence for him and maybe consider what he says a little extra special. You know, give it extra give his the directions he gives you. Give those extra special consideration. But you’re still basically your own autonomous unit that kind of just does what you think is best. What they’re doing is that that’s a con that’s a a conceptual explanation of what’s going on in that passage. The example obliterates that because it shows in practice that that is not what’s he’s talking about. That is not how it looks. Which is why yeah,

2:36:33 you’ll almost never hear that next bit, the story bit of it talked about. Uh yeah, a little extra special is so kindergarten. Yeah. Well, again, they think we’re stupid. Uh and so they think we’re in kindergarten constantly. They kind of treat a lot of people treat us that way. Um but yeah, always question conceptual explanations about scripture in light of um in light of story examples. Look for the story example of where it’s actually explained. Hey, that so when you see something that’s clearly referenced like the the the whole as unto the Lord thing like you like wives submit to your husbands as unto the Lord. Okay. Well, what does as unto the Lord mean? Um well, they had the Lord with them back at that time, right? Those disciples tagged along with Jesus. Um and Paul received a direct vision from Jesus. Uh and so these people like the the 12 disciples and all those followers uh they did they or did they not obey Jesus?

2:37:49 I’m pretty sure they did. I’m pretty sure when he said, “Hey, get into pairs and go out in into the into the towns and the fields.” I’m pretty sure they didn’t go, “You know what? This is a yield sign. I got to check both ways to see first if I should do what Jesus says. No, because you’ll see p you’ll hear pastors constantly reframe this idea is like no see our because there they’ll they’ll reference the story example, but they’ll leave out most of the actual story, right? They’ll say see Jesus submitted, you know, to to the father. Um, and they get really sort of general and nebulous and vague about it and they’ll say stuff like, well, Jesus when with his disciples, he didn’t he wasn’t like dominating to them. It’s like, well, he was a very firm leader.

2:38:30 He told people where to go and what to do and they did it. Like the disciples did not like ever go, “Hey, you know what?” Like sometimes they were like, “Well, maybe what about this Jesus? Shouldn’t Shouldn’t you go a different direction or or what about that?” They’d offer their opinions. You know, they’d speak up if they thought what he was asking was weird or what he was doing was weird. Um but they were usually kind of struck down like their their their uh objections were usually pretty swiftly shut down. Um granted Jesus perfect you know nothing that he said or did was wrong. So yeah of course their complaints wouldn’t have any grounds to stand on. Um but ultimately they ended up doing it and that was the expectation and they followed through on it. That is what submission means. So I I argue that submission is not less than obedience.

2:39:22 It’s more. It’s a whole heart posture of surrender. And this is the heart posture that we should have towards God. My whole heart, my whole life is submitted to God. It’s not just a like and the obedience is a outward manifestation of it. It’s the outpouring of my heart posture. And so if we’re to have that heart posture towards God, that doesn’t mean that it’s less than obedience. Like, hey women, you still retain your complete autonomy. just do whatever you want, but you just need to give your husband some extra special consideration. That is not what it means. Whatever it means, like if if Jesus was a a strong lead from the front leader who’s like, “Hey guys, we’re going here.” He didn’t like sit around in a, you know, in a sewing circle uh and and ask his disciples, “Hey guys, where do you guys think we should go next? I just I just want to make sure that we’re all cool and we’re all on the same page, right? because we’re a team and we’re equal partners and I need to I need to submit to you guys too, right? Cuz we’re all in this

2:40:24 together and I need to submit to you guys too. He didn’t never once did anything like that. But in practice, that’s kind of what guys are told to do. No, that’s that’s not right at all. No, if you look at the story example, it obliterates the the conceptual explanation of it. Yeah, that is what they’re offering is a kind of emotional upgrade for men. The classic traits that used to delineate a cool guy from a tedious one, dry wit, self-containment, a sense of danger or magnetism are replaced by bland conviviiality. So instead of school programs where guest speakers visit boys at a formative age, and the boys having strong role model receptivity, make relational connections to the speaker who has practical real world experience and achievements as an athlete or entrepreneur or musical artist or veteran who could get through to them quickly and even have them avidly interested and challenge their conceptions of Andrew Tate and others.

2:41:11 It will instead be middle-aged women with names like Trish and Joan and Debbie coming into the classroom with their PowerPoint presentations and their big bums and faffing for ages with the cable connecting their laptop to the projector and having to ask an obliging boy in the front row to sort it out for them and making some sort of mild impression on the kind of generic unthreatening boys and annoying the hell out of the more independent boys with braggadocio and a sharp air for who such modules are supposed to be aimed at. The idea that girls could be at fault in any way is disregarded. In children violence and vulnerability 2024, the UK Youth Endowment Fund reports 57% of boys who said they’ve been in a relationship in the last 12 months reported experiencing at least one violent or controlling behavior from a partner versus 41% of girls. Physical and controlling behaviors including partner went through phone or social media, 37% of boys to 23% of girls.

2:41:54 Afraid to break up, 31% of boys versus 20% of girls. Sexual coercion, 25% of boys versus 15% of girls. and kicked or shoved 27% of boys versus 12% of girls in teenage culture. That’s probably the most interesting one. Okay. So, again, go back, let’s go back to the COPE uh uh how so many of the the the feminists and the the leftists were looking at this data and saying, “No, no, no, no. Yes, of course, you know, the the the ladies uh dislike men more than men dislike women because they’re right to because men are so dangerous and they’re so bad that their assessment of men is just correct.” And so obviously it’s of course that’s going to be reflected in the data. That’s their cope. And that one, you know, that one commenter is very not so subtly hinting that oh well we can’t we can’t conflate um abuse like the guy’s violence towards women. We can’t conflate that with um you know the guys just disliking women a little bit or or with girls just disliking men a little bit. It’s like, okay, the assumption there is that that is just this large

2:43:01 large number of men who’s doing all these terrible things to women. Uh when the reality is most of the time it’s actually going the other direction, especially in these younger uh in these younger kid uh younger people’s lives. The whole narrative is built on nothing. But they will, you know, they’ll suck on their cope like it’s their thumb cuz they they got nothing else. Again, that sunk cost. What are they going to do? Change their minds? Um, they don’t they don’t have enough incentives yet to to break them out of it? Look, and we like I I’ll be the first to admit I’ve been captured by some dumb ideologies and dumb ideas before. I was very much a person captured by the blue pill mindset. Um, and it did not work. I was so highly romanticized about how relationships work and how women work.

2:43:59 Um, and again, yeah, by the time I reached my 30s, I had a ton of sunk costs into that to where it was just like, well, it’s either this or nothing. That’s how I’m looking at it. And so, like, I’m desperately trying to cling to that view, but I’m getting more and more self-deprecating and more and more anxious and more and more depressed as that’s happening. So, it’s like in some sense I almost understand what a lot of these ladies and feminists in general are going through. Like I I kind of know what it’s like to be captured by an ideology or or by a a bad belief structure because it’s happened to me. But I also know what it’s like to get to the other side of it. I eventually I had to receive enough consequences. reality had to punch me in the nose enough times metaphorically speaking uh for me to be like okay whoa got to wake up can’t keep going with this this belief structure is not working I got to start looking

2:44:58 around and seeing maybe if what I’m saying is true or not so I also know it’s technically possible you know there are it is po like there are some you know there are some women who who’ve turned around in this some of them have shown up in the chat here and been fairly generous. And that’s that’s something that I, you know, in in our convers conversations about this. Um, some of them are starting to experience enough consequences that they’re going, “Whoa, maybe the sunk costs aren’t worth keeping on going with this. Maybe I should change my course on this.” Feminism is goddess worship. It absolutely is. um quite literally going back to the uh the very first wave of it. There’s a reason why they picked um Lilith and uh what’s her name? The the the Indian one with her tongue out all the time and she’s always carrying like a a man’s like severed head around. Uh yeah, the they picked those goddesses as their iconography from the start for a

2:46:06 reason. Those were uh female characters, female goddesses who rejected men, rejected their any any natural role as as a woman uh with a man in some cases sought to, you know, unal alive men. Um and and they just you know they they rebelled against any responsibilities and they sought worship for themselves. It’s like it is that like it is been from the start baked into the iconography baked into the the mindset baked into the premises. It is about being woripped. It it’s about again taking God’s place. I want myself to be on God’s throne. I want to be the one receiving praise constantly. I want to be the one who can say no, you can’t criticize me because I’m perfect. If you criticize me, you’re just wrong. Right?

2:46:59 Because that is true of God. And if you know, if God is who he says he is and he is perfect, well then to criticize God would be a mistake because if God is perfect, well then any criticism is automatically false. If you’re a woman and you think that any criticism is wrong just inherently from the go, that is a behavior reserved for God alone that you are displaying. Like you do realize that, right? Like you are demanding that you be worshiped like God. Um, yep. The ancient deities, the ancient idols and deities seem to persist in nuanced subtle forms. If if you look Yeah. Yeah. It’s uh um uh John Mark Comr makes an interesting argument that um hang I’ll put the I’ll put the link to this video in the uh in the chat here.

2:48:04 Uh because this video is long. I don’t think we have time to watch all of it, but if you guys want to check it out and watch the rest of it later, um John Mark Comr makes an interesting case that um when the when the Old Testament talks about like gods like the the the gods of this land or the gods of you know the gods of Canaan and the gods of the Amorites or whatever it is that you know today we look at those and go oh well obviously they’re not real. Like if you’re a Christian, you look at it and go, “Oh, well,” or an atheist, e either way, you go, “Oh, well, there just are no gods.” And if you’re a Christian, you go, “Well, there’s only one God.” And so those are obviously just like hallucinations or people just inventing something or making it up in their own mind.

2:48:45 Uh but there is some evidence that no actually uh that’s actually those were actual real uh like small G god entities like they perhaps it was like a because we know there are angels and we know there are demons. Uh it’s entirely possible that the gods of each land were a particular demon that had some sort of rule over a particular region of land. And so when they were offering idols and worship to uh that particular or they they were making offerings to a particular idol, it’s entirely possible that that was not some just like fake madeup thing that they were uh collectively hallucinating.

2:49:27 It could be that they were really interacting with an actual evil spirit. It’s entirely possible. I tend to lean towards that. I I think CR is on to something with that. Uh, and if that’s true, that has very strange and, uh, concerning implications for today because it’s entirely possible um, that those same forces that had sway back then still have sway today. They’ve changed forms. They’re looking in different places.

2:49:59 But you see this like feminism being woman worship. It is idolatry, romanticism in a way like it is just the the the the uh the foundation of our culture right now is uh romantic romanticized worship of women. That could be an entirely demonic influence. And in fact, that’s probably likely uh you know that it’s it’s a connection between our sinful, selfish, broken hearts fallenness as human beings inter uh being uh being attacked and latched on to and hijacked by powerful demonic forces.

2:50:43 It’s entirely possible. Um, so yeah, remember Satan is the god of this world. Doesn’t mean he is God, though. Yeah. I mean, like capital G God. Yeah. No, he’s he’s not that. Uh he’s not on the same there. None of these uh to be clear, none of these deities are on the same level as capital G God himself. Um they’re they are spiritual entities that have power over the physical realm and the spiritual realm, but they are not they are not uh they’re not at his level.

2:51:21 Uh let’s see here. You see women worship from tradcons. They say they reject feminist uh feminism but elevate women who haven’t earned their place all the time. Yeah, that’s what that’s what we’re trying to call out. That’s more people need to see that and get it like hey these compliments that you’re heaping on these ladies uh don’t match the reality of those ladies. They are not these you know they are not necessarily the these sweet innocent um spotless absolutely gorgeously beautiful like angelic creatures that you’re talking about them as if they were. You’re speaking about them as if they are this thing that like if that was a man who behaved the same way, spoke the same way. Sure, you’d be like, “Oh, maybe he has a sweet exterior, but you’d be like, “Okay, but still, you know, he’s he’s overweight. Yeah, he he he doesn’t really pull his weight. He doesn’t really contribute very much.”

2:52:24 Or, “Yeah, he’s he’s really kind of self-focused. Really only really he’s not really looking out for anybody but himself. Like we if you if you take the same critical lens that you have towards men and you applied it to women, you’d realize that look, a lot of those the the praise and worship that you’re heaping onto these ladies is not deserved. And so yeah, we trying to make it uh trying to make it aware uh trying to make people aware of that. Forgiveness has become a get out of jail free from consequences according to Trackcon. And that’s not how it works. Yeah. Um that’s that’s very real.

2:53:03 Yeah, that’s that has become the sticking point for that that is the conflict o in in Christianity right now is you young guys, young girls, you know, go they’re diverging ideologically and politically. Um, and guys are getting sick and tired of of watching women come in and abuse the notion of grace. Just, you know, of unearned favor and grace. It’s like, let’s get back to some base level theology that all of us Christians should agree on.

2:53:43 What we need, okay, grace. What is grace? We need grace because we sinned. We spat in God’s face and back in the garden, right? Chose to ate the fruit and uh chose to eat fruit. And you know, every one of us has sinned ever since then. We’ve been stained by it. We’ve we’ve done it. That has uh that has taken us out of God’s presence. That’s made us incompatible with God’s nature.

2:54:11 And we can’t fix that ourselves. So, we need God to uh we need God to pay the debt for all of the all the damage that we’ve racked up. We need someone to to wipe that ledger away or wipe it clean. Uh that well that’s actually that’s in in theological terms that’s actually that’s mercy is not getting what you deserve. We deserve to uh I mean we we decided hey we don’t want God. We don’t love you. We don’t care about you. A lot of us don’t even a lot of people don’t even think you’re real. Um so we spat in his face, pushed him away. Okay, fine.

2:54:48 What you deserve is to be completely separated from God forever. The worst kind of death imaginable. U mercy is not getting that. grace is then getting what you don’t deserve, which is to be and in in scripture, what we’re promised if we uh if we believe and we repent, what we’re promised in terms of of of grace is that’s getting the stuff that we don’t deserve. Uh and that the stuff that scripture promises is well, you will be you’ll be uh you won’t just be saved and brought back to life.

2:55:22 You’ll be you’ll be allowed into God’s family. You’ll be adopted into God’s family. You’ll be a co-air with Christ in the new kingdom. You’ll get to have access to God. You’ll get to receive spiritual riches and life from him that fill you to the full and overflow from you. He didn’t have to give you all those things. He could have just saved you from death, but instead chose to give you those extra things. Um, none of that has anything to do with the natural consequences of your behavior here on earth. Not one part of that.

2:55:53 That’s not what grace is. That’s not what mercy is. Um, when you talk about mercy, you’re talking about the the debt that we owe, the moral debt that we owe to God. The the uh the the heart, the position that we have at a spiritual level with God. And mercy wipes away the debt that we owe God for our sin. Wiping away that debt is does not get a uh murderer out of jail. Oh, he repented.

2:56:22 And so that, you know, it’s just as if he’s had never sinned, right? Justified. Just that’s that’s what, you know, it’s the phrase, you know, justified. Just as if I’d never sinned. Well, does that mean that we let criminals out of jail? No, it doesn’t. That does not get you out of the natural consequence of your behaviors. Um, but for some reason, that’s how we apply it to women. When women come in and they’re like, “Hey, so you know, I am, you know, I I I let my my body go way overweight. I rejected guy after guy after guy after guy for the first 35 years of my life. And now I’m alone and I I I don’t want to be alone. I need a guy to rescue me from that. Um and yeah, sure, I was sleeping around through all of my 20s and and giving my body away to guys that I, you know, thought were good enough for me while I was rejecting guys that I thought weren’t. Now I’m willing to accept one of those guys that I thought wasn’t good enough for me. Um and I’m

2:57:12 owed this because I’m a brand new I’m a virgin in Christ or whatever it is they say. I want the consequences gone. Sorry. No, it doesn’t work that way for guys. None of the like no one is extending that kind of grace to the men for their mistakes. Nope. You made a mistake. Sorry. You got to carry that. Cowboy BBop. You’re going to carry that weight. But for the ladies, oh, no, no, no, guys. You need to swoop in and rescue these women. Again, it’s it’s a hack. It’s that hero instinct being hacked.

2:57:49 Guys, you need to go fix Adam’s original mistake of allowing women, of allowing Eve to die. You got to fix that. You got to swoop in and rescue her. You got to be the one that saves her from her predicament. And that will undo your original sin. No, it won’t. The only thing that will undo it is Jesus. Only Jesus can save her. And he can save her soul. and he will and she does need to repent. We do need to accept that part of the repentance, but the rest of the consequences.

2:58:24 Maybe she needs to experience them. Maybe that’s the best thing for her. Maybe that’s the only way that she’ll learn anything or grow or become a better person is to see that she was leeching off of other people her whole life. And to see the damage that that did not just to her, but to other people. I think that’s the thing that offends most that offends people the most about the Naler situation is she was leeching off of men her whole life. So yes, those men participated in that, but she was uh she was extracting all the resources she could from them and just take take take.

2:59:08 Do any of us see her uh in her current role as a Christian influencer caring genuinely about other people and genuinely going, you know what, I’m going to sacrifice myself for the sake of others. I’m not sure I can tell what sacrifices she’s made at all. She’s still making a lot of money being an influencer and going on podcasts and, you know, speaking engagements and talking to churches and all of that. Um, she’s still getting a lot of rewards for what she does.

2:59:44 You know, she’s she’s I have not seen her make a major sacrifice for other people. She still appears to be leveraging her uh fame to gain things for herself, gain attention, gain resources. She still appears to in some ways be leeching off of people under the guise of grace. That I think is the mo the thing that offends people the most about her situation. Why they why they uh why they’re so upset about that.

3:00:17 Why they want her to go back to back to hey, no, you got to go back to square one. Go learn how to be a real Christian. Get out of the spotlight. Stop using people’s attention for your benefit. Stop using other people for anything. Spend all your waking hours focused on loving God and loving others. Do that for a few years, then come back. Maybe if God directs you to it, that’s the other piece of this. It’s not entirely sure that like this is something that God actually directed her to do. Are you actually following God’s orders or you just keep it on business as usual just with a different branding logo on the social media app that you’re on? I don’t know.

3:01:12 Are we talking about Melanie Mack? Uh I recognize the name. I forget what happened with her. No, we were talking about um Nala Ray. I think it’s a similar situation though. Uh there are yeah the the um like Instagram influencer girl to Christian influencer pipeline is real. There’s like there’s there’s a lot of them. Um new denomination is the only way on mass to fix this. That’s it. Finally, people are not only starting to see how pervasive it is, but how impossible it is to work with with it. Um yeah, I I how do I formulate my thoughts on this? So yes, in a sense, yeah, that does seem like creating something new. A lot of people are really hesitant with the idea of a new denomination. Whenever I like bring up any concept or idea of, hey, we need to build something new, which I’m I’m trying to um I’m trying to get guys to unify and get together and hey, let’s build a new set of churches.

3:02:13 Let’s plant churches from the ground up that don’t have this garbage. Um, one of the big hesitations that people have is like, “Well, we’re already too fractured. We already have too many denominations. We don’t need more denominations.” That’s been a lot of the push back that I’ve gotten. Um, I don’t know that it has to be a new denomination because it doesn’t have to be new theology or a different like interpretation of the Bible. In my mind, at least, that’s how I like say like, “Hey, this is this is how we differentiate between denominations is theological views.” like um you know some of it trickles down into practice but a lot of it’s theology and and and biblical interpretation and all of that and I guess there’s some of some of there there’s some of that but it’s predominantly administrative.

3:02:56 This is a uh a extra biblical belief structure. It’s not about theology. This is a a the feminist extrabiblical architecture. It’s outside the Bible. It’s a whole belief set that like it uses the Bible. It leeches off of it, but it is not the Bible. It’s not actually in there. Uh that has attached itself and it’s now like sucking the life out of out of the church. Um you don’t need new denominations theologically.

3:03:26 You just need to get that bad belief structure that’s been glombmed onto it that’s like twisting people’s perception of scripture and how they read it. um and get people back to just honest plain reading of scripture and application of it. That’s the bigger thing is okay, how do you administer it? Because that’s something that like one of the things Dr. Edington pointed out in our conversation which I need to have him on here on the on the live show um was that yeah, there’s a lot of churches out there that say that they are anti-feminist. A lot of like conservative churches say they’re anti-feminist. Um, and a lot of them say that they do believe women should be held accountable uh for their sin. It’s just once you actually get them into a counseling office or any like practical setting where that could happen in real life, they just don’t follow through.

3:04:14 They just don’t do it. Um, and so, yeah, this isn’t entirely a belie like a a theological, hey, we need new theological denominations. There’s some of that like, hey, we need to stop reinterpreting some of these passages that talk about how women should behave. But that’s not even like that’s not like new theological interpretation. That’s just like let’s just stop doing this added on. Let’s stop adding this belief structure in that’s twisting the way we’re interpreting this. Let’s just get like remove that. It’s it’s not about adding, it’s about or changing. It’s about removing. Um but more than that, it’s about administration. what you actually do in practice. I don’t know that you need to call it a new denomination because that’s something that even um you could be uh you could be Pentecostal, you could be Presbyterian, you could be Southern Baptist, it doesn’t matter like all those different theological like okay so your

3:05:12 esquetology is different whatever doesn’t matter. How do you administer things in real life when a couple is in your counseling office? Let’s just start with that. Just start there. Can we fix that part of it? See if that helps. Yeah, I think it would. But yeah, Dr. Edgington would be great to have on live. Solid guest, great insight. Yeah, I need to get a hold of him. Um, yeah, Michael, I’ll have to have you on here too at some point. Uh, someday I envision like if I can get good enough at this um, someday I would like to create a version of this show that’s kind of like what uh, like Critical Drinker does where it just has a bunch of random different people on every week and they talk about these issues as a panel. I’d love to do something like that. I don’t know that I have, you know, I don’t I don’t know that I have deep deep wells of just stuff to keep talking about as a as a single individual person forever. Um I don’t know that I’m Steven Crowder, but

3:06:34 yeah. Uh I need to get people on here laptop. Go away now. Yeah. Oh my gosh, this cat. She can’t be contained. Anyway, um this Okay, this cat is a modern white woman. Uh extremely loud, does not care what you think. Um like constantly complains. This cat complains if uh the sun isn’t on. If it’s cloudy, she will come meow at us for hours telling us that we need to turn the sun on and then if the sun breaks through, she’ll go sit in the sun and be happy. Um yeah. Yeah. She’s she’s a feminist. She is a a feminist white woman that has exceptionally high standards and uh yeah, she’s cannot be contained. does not do what she’s told is constantly like if any food that we have is actually her food. Uh here you need to you need to get off off my laptop.

3:07:57 I know it’s warm. I know you like it. Um you should bring on some viewers and do some live coaching. Uh that’s a good idea. Um, maybe that’s maybe that’s something we could do with some of the guys on uh on Patreon, like have it have set that up so that if you’re a Patreon supporter, you can get in for live coaching because that would be good to see. Um, coaching sessions are coaching sessions are a fun time. I’m I that Yeah, that actually would be a good idea because I’ve been trying to scale back on coaching just because I’m just pulled in so many different directions right now.

3:08:35 Uh was the cat what we were hearing in the background earlier? Probably. Uh yes, actually almost certainly. Yeah. Let’s see here. Uh he he being Jesus loves his church but expects obedience or the church gets punished. And if it’s still rebellious, then discard it. This is how men should approach women. Yeah. You see, like, okay, so there’s a church here in the Pacific Northwest, not too far from us.

3:09:13 The church that I currently go to was planted by this church, the that church, you know, this church, uh, massive church. Uh, and so yeah, they were they planted lots of church. My church, my church is one of them. um they decided to go quite woke on quite a few things and give into the culture on quite a few issues and people just left. They were just like, “Nope, this isn’t real anymore. This isn’t the thing.

3:09:43 We’re out of here.“ And so, yeah, if people uh abandon like if if they truly like egregiously just completely dis disobey God and stop teaching his word, yeah, those churches crumble. God takes the mantle away from them in a sense. Like it happens all the time. It’s like it is kind of difficult to see some of like the the the mega churches out there that are just not not in line with God’s word and they still grow anyway. They don’t last forever. Um yeah, it’s just like you can see that they it’s like they say they’re Christian, but it’s like a zombie version of Christianity. like the, you know, the lights are, you look in, it’s like you look in its eyes and you can tell nobody’s home. There’s no life in it. Um, yeah.

3:10:34 Was there someone who helped you figure all of this out or was it all trial and error? Your videos helped me make sense of it all. I’m trying to help out some of the younger guys behind me now. Um, a lot of it was trial and error. Uh, a lot of it was just getting as many different perspectives as I could because I realized that I had been lied to about a lot of this stuff and a lot of my core premises and my my belief structures about the way life works did not match life. And so I was like, okay, maybe there’s some people out there who do have some belief structures that are more accurate. I’m going to go see if I can find them. I’m going to go I I’m going to take off any assumptions I have that anything I currently believe is correct, right? Like that we all have that kind of like arrogant assumption that everything we think is is correct.

3:11:24 I was like, “Okay, I’m going to spend a few years just trying to take that off as much as possible and just listen to what people have to say about these these things.” And that’s how I ended up watching people like um I started off kind of like little purple pill like Appalonia Ponty and and that type of thing and I was like okay this seems a little bit better but it did still didn’t quite match what I was seeing.

3:11:46 Then I ran into like Rich Cooper and like his descriptions at the very least uh of what’s going on. Totally matched everything that I was seeing and experiencing and had experienced to that point. Uh just like laser locked matched it. And so I was like, “Okay, this seems like a good thing to listen to. There’s some truth here.” Because it has high predictive validity. The stuff that you know the these frameworks and and structures that he says, they tend to produce like if you if you follow it out, watch this stuff happen. Yeah. It turns out that he would, you know, the way he says it would happen, it happens that way a lot. So uh I would say yeah look for people who have high look for high predictive validity. Look for uh people who are saying stuff that look the the if their framework is true you should expect to see it working the way that they describe it in real life and then you go out and see it and yeah it does. Like for example, one of the

3:12:50 things that really solidified it for me was you as I was starting to get into some of the the you know red pill observations and you know talk about how hey women they want men who have status and can provide resources and who are highly confident and highly masculine. And there was a guy in my church I played on worship teams with um and you know not exactly the guy that you would call the most like overtly masculine. Um he’s a very very sweet guy. Love him to death. Um but you know he’s you know very very m musician very sensitive temperament. Um and he very badly wanted to be a musician. So he’s like struggling artist not you know making a lot of money. Uh, as soon as I heard that he and his wife were, first I heard that he and his wife were living in an apartment with roommates while married, I was like, “Okay, red flag.” And then I started to hear that, hey, his wife is very attractive.

3:13:53 Okay, is she really, you know, going to feel like that’s her best option? Um and and then I you know heard started to hear that there was some conflict going on in their marriage and I’m like oh I well if you know what this Rich Cooper guy says is correct it you know if if it has high predictive validity then what I’ll see next is a divorce and you know nobody else has that thought in their brain in my circles.

3:14:23 Nobody else is thinking that that’s going to happen within like four or five months they were apart. Um, bull shark. Well, yeah, the red pill is a descriptor, not a prescriptor. Uh, Andrew Wilson, it will tell you what you want to hear, but not necessarily the solution. Yeah. Yeah. That’s Well, yes. This is this is one of the things that I find that I I I’m still trying to figure out how to talk about this with precision because yes, the red pill as an idea set itself is exactly that. is um it’s a set of prescript or it’s a set of descriptions. It’s an information packet is what uh Andrew Wilson calls it. Um it’s uh yeah it it tells you how it is. The trouble that I have speaking precisely about it is there are so many guys who say that they’re red pillar or they’re in that space who do offer a lot of prescriptions and say, “Hey, this is how it is.” But also, here’s what you should do with that, like spinning plates or or PUA or things like that. Um, go get, you know, get the most you can and all of

3:15:35 that. It’s like, okay, how do I separate those two things out? Like, do I I can’t really call them red pill. They kind of call themselves Red Pill, but they’re also telling me a bunch of stuff that I should do. Um, yeah, my trouble with Andrew Tate is that he doesn’t season his speech with grace. Uh, yeah, that’s like I’m I’m pretty sure that I’ve said that sentence verbatim at some point in my life to somebody. Um, like I struggle to see like the fruit of, you know, fruit of the Holy Spirit, love, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, and self-control.

3:16:08 Um, it’s like, yes, I get it. Those we we’ve taken that particular verse and like highly overemphasized it above the other verses in Bible in the Bible that counterbalance it. Again, theories versus stories, concepts versus examples. It’s like yes, we can look at that and that’s a very that’s a kind of an abstract theoretical statement uh as as far as verses go, but then you see stories of like in the garden when uh the the mob was coming to arrest Jesus, you know, they ask him, you know, who he he is and he says, “I am like knocks the entire crowd back on their butt.” Um, and the reason he did that was to protect his people. Like he he showed like he he he pushed he pushed them down like like with his just presence like his uh what are they saying? Bleach. His spiritual pressure just poof just knocked them back on their butts. They all fell down. Um I’m pretty sure he did that twice just to like and no partly to assert dominance I guess maybe and say hey like to show to illustrate no this

3:17:24 is not something I’m being forced to I am going willingly. I could stop this from happening if I want but also um I’m pretty sure what does it say? It connects it there there’s uh in in that description in John uh it connects it to one of the Old Testament prophets who said um and he didn’t lose any of those you know that that God gave to him. I think that’s where that is. Um but basically the point is like he did that to protect his people. It was a show of force. That is not the sort of like milktoast unmasculine nice guy sweet doormat Christianity that we think of today when we read that verse. You know the fruit of the spirit is love, peace, patience, kindness, gentleness, meekness, you know, self-control. Um, you look at the story example and you see that when necessary, Jesus had no problem using force to ensure that his flock could get away from that mob. Um, and also, you know, the the the, uh, the

3:18:24 two swords of Christ, which is a book that I’m excited to read. Um, uh, Raymond Ibrahim, I I’m I’m super been loving his, uh, stuff. But, uh, I’m super excited to read his books. Uh, but yeah, he, you know, he goes out and tells his disciples, “Hey, go buy a couple of swords.” How do you like if it’s just all be nice, be gentle, be gracious, why are they getting weapons? Why? Um, so and there there’s a bunch of stuff like that where like, hey, you know, Jesus was forceful at times, you know, driving people out of the the temple with a whip that he made himself.

3:19:05 Um, so you like that’s why I’m so glad that the Bible has so many checks and balances against like any extreme dogmatic position one way or the other where it’s just like, oh, it’s all nice guy. We just got to be basically as men, we just need to be women. Women are the ones who embody the uh the ideals of of Christianity the best because they’re the sweetest. They’re the most peaceful.

3:19:32 They’re the are they they’re they’re the most uh they’re the most kind. They’re the most meek. I don’t know about that. Um they’re the most gentle. No, not all the time. But look, that’s the perception. It’s like, hey, women are all these things and they embody the the the fruits of the Holy Spirit. So, well, it’s like, okay, but look at these examples in these stories of these people using force when necessary. It’s like Jesus himself using force when when appropriate.

3:19:59 Sorry about the voice. had to do it to him. Um, uh, so yeah, we like balance. That’s why I’m saying like I’m always in search of balance. So that’s the second or third anime reference I I caught. Look, I’ve watched a lot of anime in my life. Not a actually not a lot. I haven’t watched any in a long long time, but I used to watch a lot of Adult Swim or Tsunami. Man, it’s been so long. I don’t even know what it is. Midnight Run on Tunami, uh, Bleach and Inasha and Dragon Ball Z and all that. Good times.

3:20:42 Yeah. Uh, no, I have to disagree on the tell you what you want to hear. It tells you what reality is. It’s talking about the red pill. Um, whether you want to hear it or not is relevant. That I think is probably a better way to describe it. They’re trying to get like again it’s that that illustration of the the the LAR scan of the terrain. They’re trying to give you the most accurate uh picture of the terrain that you’re going to have to cross as a man that you can possibly have. Say, “Hey, this is just the map of how it is. This is where the mines are are. This is where the tar pits. This is where the saber-tooth tigers are. You if you want to navigate to the other side of the map and get to the mountain top, this is, you know, you’re going to need this map, right?” And so and so that’s that’s the difference between the the the description and the prescription.

3:21:30 The descriptive side of it is here’s what the terrain looks like. The prescription is yeah, there’s a lot of guys that get into talking about like here’s the best ways here’s the best pathway to navigate to the other side of the mountain or the other side of the map and here’s the best target destination on the other side of the map to get to. It’s like there are a lot of guys doing that. But yeah, I I get what you’re saying like uh it isn’t so much an attempt at telling you what you want to hear. It’s an attempt at trying to tell you just what is just this is how it is currently. Um yeah I like and again I I I disagree with the notion that well that that just the terrain is unmovable. It’s unchangeable. That just is how it is.

3:22:12 This is women’s nature and women’s nature can’t ever change. It’s like, well, sure, their their natural inclinations may not change, but if you’re a Christian, you are called to be more than an animal who just gives into your natural inclinations all the time. You’re called to be an adult. You’re called to be a full human who’s capable of disagreeing with your feelings and doing something other than what your impulses tell you to do. So, this idea that, oh, that’s just women’s nature.

3:22:40 That’s one area where I feel like the guys who were on the more uh prescriptive end of the manosphere, you know, the the the the red, you know, the red pill uh results, guys. Um that’s where I kind of disagree with them is I don’t think it’s just about uh I I don’t think it’s just about like, hey, I think I think that when guys do that, when they say, hey, this is just how women are and nobody can do anything about it. Here’s how to navigate women go. Okay. I think you’re also kind of giving women a pass on their behavior.

3:23:21 It’s like everybody in society today kind of just lets it’s like, hey, this is just how women are. Let him behave this way. Nobody can do anything about it. I don’t necessarily accept that as an answer. Black Raptor, that’s their grift. Um, yeah. I don’t I I hesitate to call it a grift because like with with grifting there’s like a an attempt there’s a generally like like this is how I think of it. I tend to think of grifting as like there is an attempt at malice or an attempt at using people or you know leeching off of people. Um, and I don’t think that that’s where those guys are at. I do think that they genuinely believe that that is how it is. It just is that way.

3:24:10 Women cannot be adult human beings who uh have standards of conduct. We cannot have a society that holds women to those standards of conduct. They genuinely believe that. And so they genuinely believe that they’re telling the truth about the situation. I don’t think they’re trying to grift anyone. They think that they’re trying to be as honest as possible. The problem with it is when you manage to successfully navigate the terrain, you get hooked up to the millstone and your wife yells and insults you while you work to death. Uh yeah, and that’s what that’s part of the reason why I say like I don’t think it’s viable to just accept that this is the terrain because not all women are like that, but there are so many like that right now that guys are just going to look at the map and go, “Wow, that’s so dangerous this to get to the other side.” and there’s no viable reward for uh 80% of us, maybe

3:25:02 90% of us, why would I try? And like that isn’t the way that it’s always been throughout history, which to me says that doesn’t have it doesn’t have to be that way going forward. There’s something we could do to change this. So maybe we should try to figure out what those things are. Maybe we should try to figure out how to to change uh change things so that guys actually can get a reliable reward for the effort and the risk that it takes to cross the terrain.

3:25:34 Yeah. This is why just it like just saying, “Hey, this is just how it is.” It’s not a good enough answer. Bull shark. When looking at the violence in the Old Testament, quote, I was told, “Oh, they aren’t under the law. However, look at the crusaders uh the crusades that occurred after Christ. Raymond gives a better explanation in the two swords of Christ. Yeah. Again, I’m super excited to read that book. I loved his um his couple of he did a couple of really interesting podcasts recently. He was on trigonometry not too long ago. I think he was on Chris Williamson as well. And man, he is so articulate about this stuff. Um it just to be aware just so everybody’s aware one of the things that he does say is that he’s not really like spiritually a Christian. He he has a very vague strange explanation for his relationship with with Christianity in general and how he views it and what he is. um he’s more sort of like um it’s,

3:26:32 you know, the history that convinced me that it’s correct. And it’s more of just it’s more of it seems like more of an intellectual uh agreement than a genuine um like, hey, I I know God. I’ve encountered him and I uh I I’ve spoken with him and I I’ve I’ve given my life to him and I’m trying to follow him. Um, but yeah, his assessment of that situation is incredible. If you guys haven’t seen it, um, maybe one of these days we can watch through some of that on the stream. Um, it’s like those are those are kind of long, but uh, they are so fascinating and it is super interesting to see that like look, no, the the the Crusades were not what we were told in school. They were not this colonialist like oppressive, hey, we’re just going to go take from uh the uh the, you know, the the Muslims or the Persian Empire. We’re just going to take from them whatever it is we want to take from them because we’re evil white colonizers. It’s

3:27:33 nothing like that. Um, they actually tried the the the Christian world tried for a long time to live in harmony as best they possibly could and kept getting attacked and kept getting like stopped and raided and having their uh their their uh their women were being forcefully taken and stuff was done to them. Like they were enduring that for a long time and it was just it was creeping in. they were being invaded and they finally put their foot down and said, “No, it stops here.” And if they hadn’t done that, it’s entirely possible you don’t have a western world.

3:28:14 It’s entirely possible that Yeah. There’s those people. Yeah. They just die. Nobody steps up to protect all of those people. the men like if if if the men of that age hadn’t stepped up and been men and you know carried their sword with a uh a purpose to protect people who are in danger then yeah you don’t have the society that you do today you have none of this you’re speaking Arabic dude instead of English so yeah it’s it like there’s a place for force and there’s a for all of those masculine instincts and urges.

3:28:56 Again, we can’t swing so far the opposite direction. Um, one thing that like we cannot get trapped in is this idea that, well, women are completely allowed to do whatever they want. They’re allowed to behave like animals and just follow whatever impulses they want. That’s what we should do as men, too. Like, swing this complete other direction from us being these milktoast like uh Yeah. Like, oh, yeah. Yeah.

3:29:20 Whatever. Whatever you say people, whatever anybody, you know, wants me to do, I’ll do. Whatever, especially any woman, I’ll I’ll bow down to you and praise you and do whatever you want. You know, like what I think would be really unhealthy for us is if we go from that and swing completely the other direction to say, “No, women are behaving like animals. Fine. We’re going to behave like animals, too.” And not we’re going to follow whatever our impulses tell us to do. Because there’s a lot of dark stuff in there. Like if hey if we if we look at the way that women behave today when they are unrestrained when they’re in an environment where no one is telling them how to behave and they’re just being unrestrained. It’s dark.

3:30:03 It’s damaging. When no one’s holding them accountable, when no one is teaching them what they should be doing and how to behave, no one’s holding them to any uh standards of behavior. It gets really dark because what’s in our hearts as humans is incredibly dark. Right now, we as men have a bunch of societal norms and we have uh our faith that holds us back from giving into the darkness in our own hearts. Like possibly the worst outcome that we could have in all this is if we give in and say, you know what, we’re going to do what the ladies are doing.

3:30:36 We’re going to give into our darkest impulses. That is when things turn really dark. And that’s a like that’s a hard one to come back from anytime soon. The problem with not all women are like that. Sure. Many don’t show their true nature till married with the full authority of the state behind them to wield. Yeah, that’s true. I’ve seen that. Um, and that’s part of the problem that I’m hoping like, hey, if we can get on top of this and start to do something about it, create counterbalance against that leverage, the state leverage, the social leverage, the emotional leverage, the sexual leverage. If we can start to um go back to doing our job as administrators of God’s word in the church, like, okay, let’s take let’s take the the the legal leverage as an example. Yes, women do have that leverage and yeah, so like it’s it’s not going to be safe for a lot of guys to get married even if like and this is one of the things that I disagree with um Andrew Wilson on like

3:31:44 even if it’s like okay so you become an Orthodox Christian and the the chances of going through divorce drop really low. It’s like 10%. Okay, it’s really really bad when it happens. If I line up 10 water bottles in a row and I tell you one of them is filled with radioactive nuclear waste and if you drink it, you will melt from the inside out like that firefighter on the show Chernobyl, it will be the most painful death you could possibly experience. But the other nine bottles are totally safe. So the chances that it’s going to happen to you is really low. Doesn’t that make it safe?

3:32:18 Shouldn’t you just go drink that water anyway? I think most people would go, “No, I’m going to go drink some tap water.” Like, breathe through my mouth like a proper caveman. No, you’re you’re not going to go for the bottled water at all. Um, so yeah. Um, the Yeah, that idea that like, well, not all women are like this. I understand that there’s a lot of people out there using that as an excuse for women’s behavior and they’re telling guys to just go for it anyway. I don’t agree with that. Um but let’s take that example but that that like we can’t just accept that as being okay that’s that’s it this is the final state of humanity nothing could be done uh checkmate women win the world loses it’s like no okay if that’s the case and I agree with you that it is what do we do well women have that leverage in the courts how do you counteract it well you can change the laws that’s a ways away you know what’s a lot faster is you can create uh social networks.

3:33:22 I’m not talking about social media. I’m talking about actual real human beings. Um like for example uh a lot of churches like mine have a uh helps ministry. They have a pool of money for people who are in need uh who are struggling and you can apply for aid. You they have a financial aid department. I actually have applied for that myself and they were generous enough to help me out when I was in a in a really, you know, bad spot right after we got we got married.

3:33:50 Um, and so you could create churches, again, like we’re talking about building churches from the ground up that don’t have this garbage in it, but you can also build churches that have levers built into them that counteract a lot of that leverage and that that force that women have on all of those fronts. you can create like, okay, so let’s create a fund for if women are going to leave and they’re going to try to bankrupt the man on the way out, right? Let’s help him out financially a bit. Let’s try to ease that burden so that it’s not quite so bad for him. That takes some of the sting out of it. Um, and yeah, maybe if he needs a lawyer, well, let’s help pay for if if it is if we as the church, you know, elders, we investigate the situation and find out that she’s leaving him and divorcing him unjustly, like he did not uh, you know, he did not cheat on her. there’s no biblical grounds for her to divorce him and she’s still leaving him anyway. Okay, maybe the church needs to get in the guy’s corner and be like, “Okay, we’ll take care of you. We’ll help you with

3:34:47 whatever you need. We’ll help, you know, whatever whatever economic burden she tries to saddle on you. We’re going to help you with that.“ Uh, and same with all the other forms of leverage, the social leverage that women have over men, like controlling friendships and whether they get in, they get to be a part of the inroups or not. Um maybe if like church leaders and church elders were actually doing something about it when women are making false accusations about men and saying no you don’t get to do that or that they’re trying to get men ostracized from communities. No, you don’t get to do that. You can clamp down on the social leverage that women have.

3:35:24 Emotional leverage. You can uh help get guys together and into groups where guys can support each other. So that that you know take some of the teeth out of that uh emotional leverage that and sexual leverage too. is if you proper if say it this way. Anytime a person is unre in unrepentant sin, the church leadership has an obligation to administer the church discipline process which is laid out uh by Jesus in the book of Matthew and believe Paul reiterates it in another place. um do you you know go to the person you say hey this is the grievance this is what you did this is how you sinned against me will you repent and if they say no okay you bring in a third party uh witness to adjudicate same thing they still don’t okay then you elevate it up to the church leaders and if the church leaders say hey they we agree hey this person is sinning against this person over here they’re refusing to repent

3:36:32 okay we’re going to not allow ow this person to be a part of this community anymore. There’s churches that do that with men. I’ve actually and I’ve have actually seen this happen with uh at least one woman at my own church. She went like she refused to repent of a particular sin and we all as church members got the letter, hey, do not associate with this woman anymore. She refused to repent of her sin.

3:36:58 Um, what if we started applying that to like if a woman is withholding sex from her husband? That is a clear disobedience of God’s word. If she’s just like, “Nope, I absolutely refuse to do it.” It’s like, “Yeah, sure. I get the argument that like, you know, guys, if you want your wife to want to have sex with you, that part is on you.” Like, you have to become something that she finds desirable. Just like if you know if a woman wants men men to find her attractive and she’s like 600 lb and they don’t find her attractive while she weighs that much, that’s not the guy’s fault. If they don’t want to be with her, you know, she needs to lose weight, right? The desire part of it, that’s on you. But the actual whether or not you do it, if you say, “No, it’s all on the guys to just make the the the the wives want to,” well, that gives women the keys to the castle. That gives gives them all the leverage over it. If you start saying let’s no church is going to

3:37:52 we we can’t administer the the emotional or the desire side of it. That’s up to you guys to work out for yourselves. But the actual are you doing it? Are you allowing it or not? That’s the part that scripture talks about. That’s the part that we’re going to administer. If the wife is refusing to uh to allow access to her husband, okay, fine. We’re going to ele elevate you through those steps of the disciplehip program and or the uh the um discipline program and according to what scripture says you will not be a part of this church community until such time as you choose to repent of that behavior.

3:38:31 Yeah, sure a man can work on himself and become desirable to more desirable to his wife, but desire alone isn’t the only reason why a woman shuts it down. A lot of times she just wants to control him or get her way. And guys are afraid of that. That’s one of the pieces of leverage that guys are, you know, they’re tired of women using on them. So maybe you deal with that by creating counterbalances. All of the leverage that women have, the church can provide an appropriate counterbalance against.

3:38:59 We just don’t. So that’s what I’m saying. Build something new. Build churches from the ground up that don’t have that, you know, feminist premise. that uh that uh the the woman worship. They just bu from the ground up. You’re building it without that stuff. And also build them to have structures to support men and women, right? You can’t just like, “Hey ladies, you’re out to dry.

3:39:28 Sorry, you had your fun with the feminist times, but now we’re taking away everything from you. We’re not going to look out for you. If a man is treating you badly, we’re not going to do anything about is like, “No, you have to administer justice and do it justly according to God’s word regardless.” Like, that’s what impartiality means. That’s what we’re supposed to have. We’re supposed to be impartial. Um because God shows no favoritism. God shows no partiality and we’re supposed to emulate that. Um just right now, we show a lot of partiality towards women. And it’s like, okay, let’s build something from the ground up that doesn’t have that.

3:40:04 Anyways guys, it’s uh it’s 7 o’clock. We’ve been streaming for almost four hours now and um I’m starting to lose my voice. Uh but yeah, thanks for hanging out. Um, send in if you guys are on the uh Patreon uh if you have access to the the uh the Discord uh the the Patreon pieces of Discord, send me content that you’d like me to look at, uh topics that you’d like guys would like to uh to hear discuss.

3:40:35 Um yeah, so I’m always looking for ideas. Uh yeah, can you check out this pastor Landon Chase? I will write that down and I will I’ll look him up. Landed chase. Cool. Um yeah, guys, that’s this has been fun. Uh so yeah, we’ll uh we’ll see you guys again uh sometime soon. Um peace out, my guys. Stay weird. Stay strong. Bye. Oh, it’s not working. No outro. Sorry, my buttons aren’t working. Bye, guys. Where is it working?

3:41:23 No, it’s not working. Sorry. See you.